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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 715: Get Specific, Create Demand with Taylor Friese of Maker Bakery - Most of us have been told — implicitly or explicitly — that success as a maker means growth: more followers, more orders, more revenue. But what if the real question isn't how big can this get, but what do I actually want from this? Taylor Friese of Maker Bakery built a waitlist that stretches years into the future not by chasing a bigger audience, but by getting radically clear about who she makes work for and why — and letting that clarity do the marketing for her. And when you get clear on what you actually want — not what success is supposed to look like, but what you want — the right people tend to show up, ready to wait in line for it.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 714: How to Make Confident Business Decisions in Your Art Business (or side-hustle) - If you've ever Googled "how to price my art" or "how to grow a creative business" hoping someone would just hand you the right answer — this episode is for you. Rebecca digs into why making confident business decisions as an artist or maker isn't about finding the perfect formula. It's about treating your art business like a science experiment: forming a hypothesis, testing it, analyzing what actually happens, and adjusting from there. Whether you're a full-time maker relying on your craft sales to pay the bills, or a side-hustle artist still holding onto that day job, this episode will help you stop waiting for permission and start making decisions that actually move your creative business forward.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/redacted-ceramics-aaron-raymond</loc>
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    <lastmod>2026-03-20</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 713: “Overnight Success” with Aaron Raymond of Redacted Ceramics - Most of us assume that building a creative business takes years of groundwork before the work can speak for itself — but what happens when the work takes off before you've had time to figure out the business? Aaron Raymond of Redacted Ceramics went from renting a wheel for a week to running a full-time pottery business in under two years, and his story raises a quiet but important question: does the conventional wisdom about "paying your dues" actually hold up? As Aaron shares, a clear creative vision — one rooted in the Portuguese tile work he encountered while living abroad — combined with a willingness to use technology as a tool rather than a shortcut, allowed him to develop a style so distinctive that it found its audience almost before he was ready for it. The real lesson here may be that sustainability isn't about how long you've been at it, but about knowing your limits, protecting your hands, and resisting the pressure to scale past what the work can actually bear.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/matt-robinson-fired-home</loc>
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    <lastmod>2026-03-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 712: Monetizing Our Hobbies with Matt Robinson of Robinson Fired Home - As makers with hobbies turned side-hustles, many of us get wrapped up in the ultimate goal and dream of quitting our day jobs to pursue pottery full time—but what if that pressure to monetize everything is actually stealing the joy from the very thing we fell in love with? Matt Robinson's experience first burning out on wedding photography taught him that the freedom to experiment, fail, and follow creative whims only exists when your livelihood isn't riding on what you make. Through six years of pottery alongside a flexible full-time job, Matt has learned that constantly trying new forms and glazes, worrying less about having only one “voice,” and posting to Instagram only when the spirit moves isn't a failure to build a "real" business—it's the luxury of keeping pottery as the side hobby, not the thing that pays the bills. Perhaps the real privilege isn't escaping the nine-to-five, but rather finding work that gives you enough time, energy, and financial security to make whatever you want, whenever you want, and releasing the financial pressure of needing every piece to sell.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/hope-limyansky-2026-part-two</loc>
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    <lastmod>2026-02-01</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 711: Part Two - “Where are They Now?” Two Years Later with Hope Limyansky - When you see someone juggling multiple jobs in their creative field, it's easy to assume it's because none of them could fully support them on their own—but what if having options is actually the most strategic business decision you could make? What happens when you intentionally build each avenue to be viable as a standalone career, then choose to keep them all anyway? In Part Two of this “Where are they now?” interview, Hope shares why she brought each of her four ceramic-related jobs to the cusp of full-time viability before deciding that she actually wanted all of them, for different reasons. We discover that sometimes building multiple income streams isn't about hedging your bets—it's about creating the security to make choices based on what you want rather than what you need. Could the freedom to say no to work that doesn't serve you—whether that's declining partnerships, stepping away from draining platforms, or choosing projects that energize rather than deplete you—be the real prize of building a multi-faceted creative career?</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 710: “Where are They Now?” Two Years Later with Hope Limyansky - So many of us carry the weight of what we thought our creative careers were supposed to look like—especially when formal education told us exactly what success should be. What happens when you realize that the dream you've been chasing (full-time solo artist, full-time influencer, the one perfect job) isn't actually what you want anymore? As Hope Limyansky shares her journey from trying to fit into expected molds to embracing four different ceramic-related jobs, we discover that sometimes the path to sustainable creative work means giving different parts of yourself to different places rather than pouring everything into one all-consuming career. Could the freedom to choose multiple paths—instead of forcing yourself into just one—be what finally lets you build a creative life that actually serves you?</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 709: The Truth About Growing Your Creative Business in 2026 - We're bombarded with messages telling us we're missing some secret key to business success—especially at the start of a new year—but here's the truth:  There's nothing fundamentally new about running a successful business, no matter what year it is. What if the real problem isn't that you're lacking some proprietary system or special knowledge, but that you've been convinced you need to keep searching for answers instead of trusting what you already know? The basics of business haven't changed in decades: tell people your work exists, get better at reaching the right people, and keep showing up consistently—and while educational resources can help, the courses promising to 3x your sales or unlock secret formulas are preying on your imposter syndrome rather than addressing the real work of building genuine connections with your customers.  Instead of chasing the next shiny solution that promises to make everything easier, what if you gave yourself permission to trust that the sustainable, incremental progress you're already making—even when it feels slow or uncomfortable—is exactly what building a real creative business actually looks like?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/haystack-mountain-school-crafts-perry-price</loc>
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    <lastmod>2026-01-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 708: Craft as Community - 75 years of Haystack - For many makers, opportunities to focus solely on creative exploration—without the pressure to produce work for sale or prove our worth through finished pieces—feel impossibly rare or reserved for those along a traditional academic path. When you discovered your craft later in life, already juggling mortgages and responsibilities you can't simply walk away from, where do you turn for intentional study and community that actually fits your reality? Craft schools exist outside traditional academia, offering experiences from weekend workshops to multi-week residencies that welcome makers at every stage—and in celebration of Haystack Mountain School of Crafts' 75th anniversary, Perry Price shares what makes these singular learning experiences so transformative.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/scaling-a-pottery-business-with-sarah-wolf-part-two</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 707: Scaling a Pottery Business with Sarah Wolf (Part Two!) - Building a team is one thing—but how do you actually run a production ceramics studio day-to-day without losing the handmade quality that makes your work special? In this second part of my conversation with Sarah Wolf of Wolf Ceramics, we dig into the operational realities of running an eight-person studio. Sarah breaks down weekly production rhythms, why cross-training her team across multiple tasks creates both flexibility and ownership, and the strategic decision to invest in a jigger jolly. We explore her approach to balancing 80% direct-to-consumer sales with custom restaurant orders, the importance of upfront honesty about lead times and capabilities, and why giving away $500 worth of samples can be a smart long-term investment. Sarah also shares the story of 2023's financial crisis—when stagnant sales forced her to consider layoffs—and the difficult decision to invest $10,000 in rebranding and ads when money was tightest. Her transparency about hiring for character over ceramic skills, the real value of building a mailing list, and why Instagram consistency isn't actually her secret to success offers practical permission for makers navigating their own growth. Whether you're trying to figure out your own production systems or simply curious what sustainable scaling actually looks like, this conversation provides a rare behind-the-scenes look at the real work of building a craft-based business.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 706: Scaling a Pottery Business with Sarah Wolf - What if you could grow your business and build a team without becoming a factory—creating a business that values craft, flexibility, and the humans behind the work? In this conversation, Sarah Wolf of Wolf Ceramics shares her journey from studying geochemistry to building an eight-person ceramics studio in Hood River, Oregon. She opens up about the early years working from her parents' basement, the vulnerable decision to hire her first team members, and how the pandemic unexpectedly accelerated her growth. Sarah reveals the real financial details behind major business moves—from signing her first commercial lease to buying a house that needed a mortgage workaround—and why learning to set clear boundaries actually created more freedom for everyone on her team. Whether you're considering your first hire or wondering if sustainable growth is even possible in ceramics, Sarah's story offers both permission and practical wisdom for building a business that works for your life.</image:title>
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    <lastmod>2025-11-21</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 705: Choosing vs. Reacting - How will you navigate Firing Season? - Right now, for potters and artists around the world the holiday season is crazy busy - markets, commissions, shop updates, custom orders all piling up at once. But are you choosing what's right for you, or just reacting to everything coming at you?  In this episode, we explore the crucial difference between making intentional decisions based on your unique goals versus automatically saying yes because you're afraid to miss out. Rebecca shares her own journey from reactive decision-making (saying yes to every December opportunity out of fear) to choosing what actually serves her business and life. Learn how to pause before answering that market invitation or commission request, and discover the key questions to ask yourself: Do I need to? Am I doing this from fear or clarity? What does success look like for ME this season? This conversation is especially timely as we enter Firing Season: that November/December period when makers are literally firing kilns constantly and figuratively firing on all cylinders. The challenge isn't just about working less; it's about knowing WHY you're working hard and safeguarding energy for what matters most. So where will you be when New Year's Eve rolls around—fired up from all you accomplished, or burned out from reacting?</image:title>
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    <lastmod>2025-11-09</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 704: Searching for Your Voice with Becky Meneely - Working as a librarian by day and making pottery in her garage studio by night, Becky wrestles with a challenge many makers face: how do you develop a distinctive artistic voice when you're working in isolation? What if the pressure to constantly produce—amplified by social media's highlight reel—is actually drowning out the quiet work of discovering what you're truly trying to say? Through Becky's journey from community studios to her home workspace, and ultimately to seeking mentorship, we see how the introspective work of noticing what you notice and allowing yourself to be vulnerable about your creative exploration can transform not just your work, but your entire relationship with your craft. When we, as makers, give ourselves permission to prioritize being curious over meeting productivity expectations, we can often discover that the creative restlessness we’ve been feeling isn't a problem to solve—it's actually pointing us toward the work we’re meant to be making…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/olivia-avery</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-10-25</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 703: Technical Foundations, Art Fair Realities, and Sustainable Pricing with Olivia Avery - Many makers struggle with the tension between creating work we love vs making work that we think will sell, especially when traditional academic instruction is often focused on concepts and what I call “Capital A Art” over the practical skills needed to make a living. What if the key isn't choosing between artistic integrity and commercial viability, but rather learning to work efficiently? Olivia Avery's experience reveals how rigorous craftsmanship training—throwing 40-80 pots daily until she could self-evaluate and create consistent work—became the foundation that allows her to pursue intricate surface decoration while maintaining a viable business. Despite the unpredictability of markets where she might sell out of teapots one weekend and mugs the next, her willingness to price her labor-intensive, highly decorated functional work appropriately demonstrates how technical excellence and clear pricing boundaries can create space for both creative fulfillment and financial sustainability, even when it means accepting a smaller but more committed customer base.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/danielle-williams</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-10-11</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 702: How Personal Inspiration Built a Business with Danielle Williams of Strong Roots Pottery - As makers, we often feel pressure to create what we think will sell rather than what genuinely excites us, but what if following your authentic creative vision is actually the fastest path to finding your people and building sustainable success? Danielle Williams of Strong Roots Pottery discovered this when she finally allowed herself to explore the hair-inspired clay work that had been sitting in her sketchbook for years—her now-signature Bantu knot vases didn't just reignite her passion for making, they created such demand that she now maintains a waitlist of eager customers. By giving herself permission to make what truly resonated with her (even when it meant stepping away from "safer" planter sales), she found that following her long-held creative vision became her greatest business asset, proving that the courage to pursue your personal creative interests—rather than chasing trends or quick sales—often leads to the kind of meaningful work that sustains both your artistic soul and your bank account.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/jamar-diggs</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-09-27</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 701: Creating Educated Buyers with Jamar Diggs - Most makers think YouTube means teaching their craft or competing with influencers for millions of views—but what if the real power lies in creating educated, confident buyers who value your work before they ever click "purchase"? Jamar Diggs, YouTube consultant and creator of the Low Lift Club, reveals how service providers and product makers can leverage YouTube not for viral fame, but as a strategic lead generator that transforms browsers into invested customers. When makers shift from accidentally teaching their techniques to intentionally showcasing their process and educating buyers on product value, they create a sustainable system where old videos continue attracting qualified customers months or even years later—turning YouTube into a working asset rather than another exhausting content treadmill.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/yvonne-rausch-part-2</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-08-04</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 628: Where are They Now: Two Years In with Yvonne Rausch Part Two - What if the pressure to grow your follower count and perfect your online presence is actually distracting you from the real relationship-building that sustains creative businesses over time? Because it’s a little bit crazy to realize how many of the most successful business opportunities often come not from your carefully crafted marketing strategy, but from the casual conversations that happen when you're just being human. Moments like helping a neighbor move boxes, chatting in another language at an art opening, or simply showing up authentically in your community.  Yvonne's experience reveals how pivoting from traditional market sales to unexpected revenue streams like embassy orders and collaborations discovered through bilingual conversations has not only increased her income but deepened her creative practice. As she navigates the seasonal rhythms of pottery—selling in winter, creating in summer, and learning to work with rather than against these natural cycles—her journey illustrates that sustainable self-employment might be less about having a perfect plan and more about staying open to the human connections and creative experiments that emerge when you're focused on the work you love rather than the metrics you think you need.</image:title>
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    <lastmod>2025-07-31</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 627: Where are They Now - Two Years In with Yvonne Rausch (Part One) - The romanticized image of going full-time as a maker often glosses over one crucial reality: you'll spend as much time problem-solving your business as you do creating, and the mental resilience required might surprise you more than the financial challenges. What if the key to thriving long-term isn't just having enough savings or demand for your work, but developing the flexibility to constantly adapt when your original plans inevitably must change? Yvonne's two-year journey from part-time ceramicist to full-time entrepreneur reveals how seasonal rhythms, unexpected kiln disasters, and market changes force you to get creative with revenue streams—from embassy orders to collaborations discovered through casual conversations. Rather than viewing these constant pivots as setbacks, embracing the problem-solving nature of self-employment can lead to both stronger business foundations and deeper self-knowledge about your values, boundaries, and creative evolution.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/jenamcnerney</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-07-25</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 626: The Art of Adapting with Jena McNerney - Could it be that we've been thinking about this all wrong? That it's not the "real job" on one side of life and the dream of making art full-time on the other, and that eventually, we have to choose? Because when we really look at it, are the most sustainable creative careers, from the artists we admire the most, actually built on either-or decisions? Jenna McNerney's journey through teaching, studio ownership, a few odd jobs in construction and even a hair salon, chronic illness diagnosis, and back to teaching again reveals how adapting to life's curveballs doesn't mean giving up on your dreams. Instead, it means getting strategic about how you pursue them. Sometimes the most rebellious thing you can do isn't quitting your day job, but rather embracing the flexibility to move between worlds as you need to, keeping your hands in clay no matter what life throws your way.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/willdonovan-f2jza</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-07-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 625: Iterating for a Target Audience with Will Donovan (Part Two!) - The internet loves to talk about that magical “six figure business” milestone, but what if hitting that revenue number doesn't actually change your life the way you think it will? What if the real transformation happens when you stop chasing someone else's definition of success and start building systems that serve your actual goals—even when that means making decisions that feel uncomfortable or unconventional? In part two of our conversation, Will Donovan pulls back the curtain on what six figures really means as a business owner, how he navigates the complex world of copyright when creating fantasy-inspired work, and why strategic paid advertising became a tool only after he had proven organic growth. Turns out, sometimes the most sustainable path forward might require letting go of the romantic notions of what it means to be a "real" maker and embracing the frameworks required to build the business you need that actually supports your life.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/willdonovan</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-07-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 624: Iterating for a Target Audience with Will Donovan - As makers, we often start with a vision of success that's more fantasy than strategic roadmap—believing that if we just work harder at making our beautiful pieces, it will somehow lead to a sustainable business. But what if the path to actually thriving as a creative is in repeatedly narrowing your focus, rather than doing more and more? What if doing less is actually what allows you to find that magical venn diagram intersection of what you love and a specific audience who desperately wants it? Will Donovan's journey from nearly abandoning ceramics to building a six-figure fantasy-themed pottery business reveals how iterating toward a precise target audience—rather than trying to please everyone—can transform both your creative satisfaction and your bottom line. But don’t be fooled! The need to evolve your definition of success, even when it means letting go of traditional expectations (or some of the hands-on making) is no easy process. As always, it all comes down to your unique definition of not only what success looks like, but also what type of life you actually want to live.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/heidi-fahrenbacher-ke5dt</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-06-28</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 623: Side Sauntering with Melisa of MWY Pottery - As makers, many of us feel pressure to choose between our creative passions and a more traditional career - but what if that's a false choice entirely? What if taking your craft seriously doesn't require abandoning a career you are equally passionate about? Melisa's journey from taking her first clay class as a 40th birthday gift to creating what she calls a "side saunter" shows us how blending our different worlds can actually make both richer. Could embracing your own pace and connecting your creative work to the career you already had be the key to building a sustainable making practice that enhances rather than competes with all of life’s other demands?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/heidi-fahrenbacher</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-06-21</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 622: When 90% of Your Revenue Comes from Pottery Alone with Heidi Fahrenbacher - Recently there's been a lot of talk around whether or not you can make a full-time living as a studio potter, and most stories you'll hear about those who are seen as "studio potters" involve teaching regularly, running workshops, providing rental space for other artists, or maintaining multiple income streams beyond just making pots. But there are a few potters out there who truly make their living from the literal things they make - and Heidi Fahrenbacher, of Bella Joy Pottery, is one of them. Heidi's journey from financial rock bottom to paying herself a steady salary reveals how facing your worst business fears head-on can actually become the foundation for a more sustainable practice. In this conversation we talk about how sustaining this kind of practice isn't about finding the perfect sales channel or mastering every platform, but about learning to simplify, set boundaries, and recover from the inevitable mistakes that come with building any creative business. Heidi’s experience reminds us that sometimes the most valuable business skill isn't avoiding problems altogether—it's learning how to bounce back from them with better boundaries, clearer priorities, and the confidence to keep making the work that lights you up.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/themakersplaybook</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-06-11</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 621: Can You Make a Living from a $45 Mug? - Can you make a viable living from creating a wheelthrown mug that you charge $45 for? According to a video currently racing around the internet, the answer is no. But is that true? According to some of the past potters I've talked to here on the podcast over the last 4 years, that answer would be no, that's not true. In fact, they are making a living for their entire households. On this episode we dig into 4 particularly important things to consider when it comes to definitive statements like this one and whether or not you can actually make a living with the work you make:  1) The early-stage career reality check, 2) The crucial Market Fit Venn Diagram we all have to find a solution for, 3) How it is actually possible to make a living from a handmade $45 mug, and 4) A tiny bit of tough love to connect it all together.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/marthagrover</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-05-31</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 620: Protecting Your Artistic Voice with Martha Grover - What happens when we approach our artistic development not as lightning-bolt inspiration but as intentional practice—exploring the minute details that fascinate us while carefully choosing which external voices we allow to influence our work? Throughout her 23-year career, Martha Grover has done just that, and the iconic look of her distinct thrown and altered porcelain vessels reveals how a pragmatic approach to the mystical journey of finding your creative voice can often be the most sustainable approach. In this episode, Martha shares the realities of being a studio potter in 2025 and how that actually looks like balancing her time between many different roles. Whether it be teaching workshops, running a community studio or maintaining her own making practice, Martha demonstrates how “success” for artists today often means deciding what is enough rather than giving in to constant growth. Even when you have a 101 person waitlist. Could the clarity to set these boundaries be what allows your unique artistic voice to thrive both creatively and financially?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/evachampagne</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 619: Building a Creative Practice Across Continents with Eva Champagne - As makers, we often believe that stability - often in the form of continuous access to the same studio and materials - is essential for building a creative business, but Eva Champagne's nomadic journey reveals a different path. Throughout our conversation, Eva shares how she's built a ceramics practice while constantly relocating - from Florida to the Virgin Islands, Bali to Montana, and numerous residencies in between - by prioritizing experience and adaptation over permanence. Despite the challenges of restarting with new materials, kilns, and glazes in each location, Eva embraces this constant reinvention as part of her creative process. Rather than seeing her nomadic lifestyle as an obstacle, she's transformed it into a strength, connecting with ceramic communities worldwide and developing a unique artistic voice that thrives on curiosity and discovery. Could insatiable curiosity and a willingness to constantly try new things be a new approach to unlocking something new for your own creative journey?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/annmarie-cooper-good-earth-gallery</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-05-10</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 618: A Journey to Gallery Ownership with AnnMarie Cooper of Good Earth Gallery - As makers, we often envy others' seemingly polished creative lives without seeing the winding path they took to get there. AnnMarie Cooper's journey from gallery employee to pottery gallery owner, cohorts program manager, and shared studio founder reveals how real artistic careers evolve through countless iterations - from taking community college classes and working in an 80-square-foot backyard shed to finding her voice through unexpected owl designs. Her story reminds us that the current stage of any maker's journey was built on multiple transitions, space adjustments, and boundary-setting exercises that responded to both creative and family needs. Behind every Instagram-worthy studio or established gallery lies years of gradual growth, experimentation, and community-building that transformed initial passion into sustainable creative practice.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/amyroadmanpart2</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-04-30</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/f535c26d-909d-49f8-b392-47dba2211e88/DSC04591_websize+%281%29.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 617: Part Two with Amy Roadman - Missed Part One? Listen here! Having established her community studio through careful listening and intentional growth, Amy Roadman now faces the challenge many creative entrepreneurs encounter: balancing business sustainability with personal fulfillment. What happens when you're finally the boss but struggle with pricing your work, protecting your creative time, and growing at the right pace? In Part 2, Amy shares how she navigates charging what she's worth (especially when protecting her team's time), finding resources through local grants and networks, and creating a business model that honors both her lifestyle goals and financial needs. Her journey reveals that perhaps the truest measure of success isn't found in rapid scaling or maximizing profit, but in building a creative business that provides both community connection and enough personal freedom to remember why you started making in the first place.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/amyroadman</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-04-30</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 616: The Slow Growth Community Studio with Amy Roadman (Part 1) - Transitioning from classroom teaching to entrepreneurship - In some ways it’s a huge shift, in others, it can be all too easy to maintain the old habits of overworking and prioritizing others’ needs over your own. So many of us can struggle with finding the balance between serving our communities or caring for ourselves. Is it possible to start a business and protect your own creative needs while helping others? What would that even look like? Amy Roadman's journey of launching a community pottery studio reveals how listening closely to student feedback (from class scheduling to glaze options) transformed her teaching approach and business model while preventing burnout. Her story reminds us that rapid growth and 100s of thousands of internet followers isn’t always necessary for success. Instead, perhaps the deliberate practice of slow growth can produce a small business that sustains the life you actually want to have. Be sure you've subscribed to this podcast wherever you're listening so you don't miss out on Part Two!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/lisa-orr</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-04-13</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/a825ec7f-31b9-430f-a853-0b4cf868b9db/IMG_4117.jpeg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 615: The Importance of Mentorship with Lisa Orr - Here on the podcast, we often talk about the delicate balancing act between creative fulfillment and business sustainability - a struggle that can feel overwhelming without guidance. What if finding the right mentor could be the pivotal moment that transforms your creative practice and career trajectory? When Lisa Orr sought out Betty Woodman as a mentor, it completely shifted her perspective on materials, giving her permission to pursue colorful earthenware despite the stoneware-dominated ceramics world of the 1980s. Through her journey from studying with established potters to international research and eventually becoming a mentor herself, Lisa reveals how these relationships provided not just technical knowledge but practical business skills alongside the confidence to challenge current assumptions. Could the difference between struggling in isolation as an artist and building a sustainable decades-long pottery career be found in actively seeking mentorship and finding your creative community?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/elizabeth-schlatter</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-04-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 614: The Aligned Potter with Elizabeth Schlatter - Many of us learn to accept the aches and pains of making as just part of the creative journey, assuming sore wrists and "potter's back" are inevitable companions to our craft. What if the physical discomfort of creating could be significantly reduced through simple awareness and intentional adjustments to how we work? Elizabeth Schlatter, creator of The Aligned Potter, draws on her experience to show how small changes—from joint inventory checks between tasks to understanding your unique body mechanics—can transform your making practice. Taking care of our bodies isn't just about preventing pain, but about creating a sustainable practice that allows us all to keep making what we love for decades to come.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/kara-leigh-ford-2025</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/8972c147-4ba1-4745-b39f-5dbc0db5e7a1/Kara+Throwing+at+the+wheel+2.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 613: Where are they now? with Kara Leigh Ford - As an avid podcast listener, long before I ever started this show, I was always curious about what had happened to entrepreneurs and small business owners after the interview was over. was everything still working the way they described during that interview or had things changed? On this "Where Are They Now" series, we answer that very question of some of our past podcast guests. This week, I'm sitting back down again with Kara Leigh Ford to discuss all that's changed since I last spoke with her back in January of 2021. Since then, her husband has left his corporate job to pursue his own passions, which has shifted the demands of Kara's business into being the primary source of economic support for their household. Through strategic pivots—balancing pottery-making, teaching, Patreon content, and publishing two books—Kara has discovered that success isn't always about exponential growth but intentional choices that protect joy and wellbeing. Their household has not only survived this transition but found new equilibrium, with Tom now signed to a record label and Kara experiencing greater clarity about her priorities as a maker. This chat with Kara is a great reminder that the true measure of success isn't necessarily constant expansion, but rather designing a business that supports the life you actually want to live.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/pine-zen-pottery-amy-brummond</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/daaf8cfb-18aa-4f58-95b6-0a89b67c3c0e/IMG_5650.jpeg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 612: Being Your Own Boss with Amy Brummond of Pine Zen Pottery - As makers transitioning from hobby to business, we often forget the most powerful perk of self-employment: you're the boss who makes the rules, not just the employee doing all the work. What if setting clear boundaries, creating a sustainable schedule, and giving yourself permission to evolve creatively are actually your responsibilities as a good boss to yourself? As Amy Brummond shares her journey of artistic evolution, we see how honoring her creative restlessness not only reignited her passion but actually strengthened her business when customers responded enthusiastically to her new work. Could the courage to follow your changing creative voice—even when it means risking established success—be what ultimately creates the sustainable making practice that allows you to thrive both creatively and financially?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/megan-sward</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 611: When Things Need to Change with Megan Sward - Most of us dream of turning our craft into a thriving business, but what happens when achieving "the dream" — the large following, sold-out shop updates, and steady sales — still doesn't translate into a sustainable living? When former full-time potter Megan Sward faced this reality, she discovered that the gap between making work you love and building a viable business involves far more than just mastering your craft. What if the key to longevity isn't just about making better pots, but about developing a clear strategy for everything from production methods to pricing to self-care? The surprising truth is that thoughtful planning and honest self-assessment may matter more than pure creative talent when it comes to building a sustainable making practice.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/business-is-boring</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/f49851d3-812a-4b76-97e9-dde53fcfa9aa/Rebecca+avatar.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 610: Business is... Boring? - There is an underlying current of anxiety about keeping up with the latest trends and strategies, especially when it comes to running your business online (and even more especially when it comes to social media). But what if the real secret to success isn't about chasing every new thing, but rather embracing the "boring" parts of business? Trying every new trending strategy often leads to scattered efforts and minimal results, not to mention most definitely leads to burn out. Embracing the boredom of consistency and repetition however, while perhaps not as exciting as the latest viral strategy, are often the key ingredients to building a sustainable creative business. And giving yourself permission to be boring might just be the most revolutionary thing you can do, not only for your business, but for your life.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sarah-wells-rolland</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 609: Where are They Now? - Restarting through Trauma with Sarah Wells Rolland - When I last spoke with Sarah Wells Rolland, The Village Potters in Asheville, North Carolina was 13 years into it’s incredible, communal existence. And frankly (at least from my perspective) was a well oiled machine. With a residency program, community classes, a gallery, and 17 kilns it wasn’t on my short list wondering “gee, I wonder where they are now?” That is, until Hurricane Helene hit. And absolutely everything changed.  Introducing: Where are They Now? A new series on The Maker's Playbook podcast where we check back in with past guests to see where this journey of making a living from the things they make has taken them.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/isaac-shue</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 608: The $20 Mug with Isaac Shue - The ways in which our decisions in life are so interconnected it feels endless. The same is equally true in business, especially a ceramics business. And there's no way you stay in business, as a fully self-employed household with kiddos, while offering a $20 mug without thinking through all of that interconnectedness. My chat with Isaac Shue on this week's episode perfectly highlights how every step of our making process can also inform the endless steps of our small business (or side-hustle).</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/seanin-rosario</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/1b936212-4dad-4643-bb10-fe75ff122273/image0+%284%29.jpeg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 607: Financial Systems with Seanin Rosario - When it comes to the topic of money, for many of us, it stirs up less than happy feelings. But in many ways, money is just data. Yes, it has an outsized effect on our lives and the decisions we do (or can) make, and that’s annoying as stepping on Legos. But, as much as we can feel a variety of emotions around money, finances are actually just neutral data points for us to track, recognize, and use to make decisions. In this conversation with part-time potter and full-time finance professional, Seanin Rosario, we talk about the basics of some immediate, quick actions you can take to get your side-hustle or small business finances more organized and how to at least start tracking your income and expenses.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/not-your-usual-year-end-recap-the-launch</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-03-22</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 606: Not your usual year-end recap {The Launch} - I had thought this solo episode would be some nice big grandiose end of year recap for you. I also, had intended it to actually air in 2024, but alas… here we are, kicking off 2025 with it. The plan was lists of what worked and what didn’t in our ceramics business this year and a nice, reflected wrap-it-all-up and make-it-make-sense so you can apply the lessons we learned to your own life in whatever way works for you. The kind of thing you perhaps have come to expect from these Launch episodes. But... that’s not exactly what this episode is going to be...</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sue-mcleod</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-01-10</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 605: Finding Your Niche with Sue McLeod - A self-described “failed production potter” Sue McLeod still very much makes her living from ceramics. Yet, she doesn’t make her living from actually making pots… As is true with any industry, we often forget just how many different supporting and tangentially related sub-topics and professions there are available to us. And, at least for me, when we start to see those, a whole myriad of options opens up to how we just might make this crazy dream - of making a living from the things we make - actually work.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/bill-schwenzer-aliveguy-pottery</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-12-13</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 604: Working with Intention with Bill Schwenzer of Aliveguy Pottery - Described as the most supportive guy on the internet by numerous people, today’s interview with Bill Schwenzer feels long overdue. Better known as Aliveguy Pottery, we talk about his career transition from corporate quality control to clay, his commitment to thoughtful encouragement online and his unique approach to delayed gratification all while continuing to push himself outside of his comfort zone and not get too bogged down in analyzing.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/stanley-tong</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-12-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 603: Receiving Delayed Attention with Stanley Tong - I reached out to chat with Stanley after seeing his “Thoughts and Prayers” series - a powerful body of work creating strong visuals on the actual effects of a bullet striking a form. A series, he actually made more than a year ago. And yet, only recently and quite suddenly, has gotten quite a lot of recognition. We talk about how the series came about and what’s happened in the year since, as well as the time he’s taking to figure out the next steps, instead of letting the internet push him into a constant state of urgency. Not to mention, the decision to use a platform to express a message and what may or may not happen if that message changes. In other words: Do you keep making the work you know people want, or… Do you change?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/tim-clark-half-blind-potter</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-11-15</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 602 : The Catharsis of Supporting Others with Tim Clark - If you weren’t learning how to carve intricate designs in sourdough bread in 2020, odds are, you might have been learning how to make pottery. And while this is true for today’s guest, Tim Clark, that wasn’t all. Tim also was learning how to make pottery and navigate the rest of life after a spontaneous tear of the retina left him half blind. There seems to be quite the thru line for many of us finding pottery as a therapeutic thing, but Tim has taken this one step farther, in starting the Blindfold Challenge to help raise awareness and frankly, a bit of money, for an amazing cause called the Fun Eye Fund.  In this episode, we talk all about that plus how Tim has found the Blindfold Challenge cathartic in ways he didn’t expect and his new endeavors into creating art that’s accessible not only for us sighted humans, but equally enjoyable for those in the blindness community.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/clare-barboza-poppy-bee-surfaces</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-11-15</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 601 : Staying Okay (even when your business isn’t) with Clare Barboza of Poppy Bee Surfaces - How do you stay okay even when it doesn't feel like your business isn't going well? Because while we might feel pulled to log the long hours and push ourselves to "work harder" to "grind it out," in reality, we can't really come up with new, interesting, creative solutions when we're exhausted or stressed or frankly, freaking out. As foolish as it might feel to get up and go for a walk instead of "being productive" it might also be exactly that walk that brings you a clever idea to turn things around. Because as today's guest, Clare Barboza (who's been self-employed for about 25 years now), reflected, "It’s not going to stay this way. That’s what you learn as an entrepreneur. There are cycles. Nothing stays the same.”</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/xioma-ortiz</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-11-01</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 525 : When Plans Change with Xioma Ortiz - Leap and you’ll learn to fly… The key to success is action… The best way to predict the future is to create it… How many of these tropes have you heard? They are usually associated with that scary first step of making a change in your life to go after something you are dreaming about. And while yes, sure, there is often a moment where, regardless of preparation or planning, making a big change feels scary and you just have to finally do the darn thing - at the same time, there are also very real considerations to be made before you take that leap.  While encouraging each other to go after our dreams and make them happen is important, and while I do believe it is possible to build viable small art businesses for ourselves (clearly), these entrepreneurial tropes - leap and you’ll learn to fly - might actually be doing more damage than good. Sometimes, we leap with the best of intentions, excitement and even planning, and life doesn’t go the way we had envisioned. And frankly, that process isn’t something that gets talked about very often. Which is exactly why I was so impressed with Xioma Ortiz of Hello Xioma and creator of the Domies when she was sharing publicly about the painful decision to close her solo studio.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/rhianon-vichta-happy-heart-ceramics</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-20</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 524 : Adjusting to Full-time  with Rhianon Vichta - Thinking about becoming a full time artist is a dream that lingers in the back of many people’s minds. And my assumption is, whenever any of us are dreaming about a change, we mostly think that if we took this leap, if we didn’t have to be bothered with showing up to an office for someone else Monday through Friday, we’d have more time to do the thing we love - to make. But is that what the change is really like? Is selling your work after you do take that leap to be a full time artist the same as selling your work when it’s a side-hustle? In other words, as you will soon hear from Rhianon Vichta, “What do you do when what you did for fun becomes your job?”</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/immaterial-with-the-met</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-06</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 523 : Immaterial with The Met - So what does it mean if the work we’re making isn’t as impermanent as we think? Does it have to be in order to have value? Is there still value when it breaks?  Today, I’m thrilled to partner with the one and only Metropolitan Museum of Art to feature an episode from their own podcast - Immaterial: 5,000 Years of Art, One Material at a Time. Each episode examines a material of art - like clay, stone, or even trash and what they can reveal about history and humanity. On today's episode, you're about to hear the story of Stone I recently listened to from their Season 2 launch. The discussion about what happens when the unbreakable not only breaks but shatters had me constantly thinking about every message I’ve ever sent to someone who’s favorite mug has broken. And I wonder how we all might think a little differently about our less than permanent items after listening to this episode of Immaterial: 5,000 Years of Art, One Material at a Time…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/the-case-for-curiosity-the-launch</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-01</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 522: The Case for Curiosity {The Launch} - As I reflected on what we're doing differently for this market season compared to last year's, I realized a trend that I've also seen after teaching over 200 makers inside our MPSS photography course and journeying along side nearly 100 makers inside of The Community for the past 3 years. And while I don't really believe in magic silver bullets to assured success, this one trait just might be the determining factor from those that do continue to find success vs. those that, understandably, give up.</image:title>
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  <url>
    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/isaac-scott</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 521: Becoming an Artist with Isaac Scott - What does it even mean to “be an artist?” Does it mean you are making work you like to make? Is that art? Does it mean someone else considers you to be whatever their definition of “artist” is? Does it mean not having another job? Or can you be an artist and do something else? Does doing something else actually better allow you to be an artist? Putting it more succinctly, how do you become an artist? On today’s episode I virtually sit down with Isaac Scott, one of NCECA’s 2024 Emerging Artists, to discuss his own journey in becoming an artist - from first discovering clay, making production work, transitioning to fine art, and ultimately, continuing to figure out how to keep showing up. Because, spoiler alert, perhaps the answer to all of those questions is found in simply (or not so simply) to keep showing up.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/nicole-bernard</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-05</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/21a35593-29d1-4efb-9825-fd38ba49930c/IMG_1137.jpeg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 520: Embracing the Side-Hustle with Nicole Bernard of NB Makes - If you’re side-hustling your ceramics, are you anxiously awaiting the day you can quit the day job? But what if the day job was actually providing you with the chance to learn to be better at your craft? And no, I’m not talking about a job associated with what you make. I mean a day job totally different than what you dream about making, a job in an office, in a “traditional” employment structure, absolutely not at all associated with the art world. What if that job was actually helping inform how you might be able to dream even bigger about what you could do with your own making business? It might sound crazy, but that’s exactly what Nicole Bernard of NB Makes has been able to find through her communications career. Nicole is balancing a long list of worlds she moves between - from a communications career to growing NB Makes to sitting on boards that make major decisions about funding and somehow also finding the time to commit to a running group. Nicole is taking what she learns from one space and applying it to another - from business to art and art to business. And I think this holistic approach just might be the breath of fresh air so many of us multi-passionate people have been looking for.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/henrik-van-ryzin</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 519: The Reset Button with Henrik Van Ryzin - Do you ever think about completely changing your life? Like literally, everything - Your job, where you live, what your day to day looks like, maybe even your identity in a way… Or maybe you have done that already, and you are living the dream you had 5 or 10 years ago, but now, as it turns out, it’s not actually the dream? Just even thinking about saying that out loud feels crazy because you worked so hard to get where you are right now. How could you ever change that? Why would you? Should you? Well first off, I just want to say. It’s okay. I’ve been there! Or rather, am there, as I make my own pivots through a career change. Which of course, is exactly why I went about to hear from other artists on how the heck they managed to totally and completely shift their own lives. Enter Henrik Van Ryzin - self-proclaimed reset button smasher, 3 times over. And I think Henrik would agree when I say, with all due respect to his hard work, that he’s not actually all that different, as a human, from you and I. So if you are thinking about making a change, big or small, in your life to pursue something you think could be amazing for whatever the next phase of your life might be, then this is the episode for you. That being said, if you are also simply one of the 48 thousand admirers of Henrik’s work online and have been curious to know how the heck his iconic tiki meets monsters style of making even came about, then this is also the episode for you.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/john-r-hamilton</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-07-26</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 518: The Economics of Clay with John R Hamilton - I thought John &amp; I were going to talk mostly about burnout. How it “happened” to him, how he got through it, and perhaps, what he’s doing differently now. But (perhaps rather obviously) it can’t really be broken down that simply. Instead, John and I wound up not only talking about burnout, but also the pursuit of the impossible perfect cylinder, the responsibility we all have to educate others on what we do while also hopefully exciting them, and particularly the realities of the economics of making - whether that be other jobs that help support that reality, but also the internal realities of pricing and finding your market, or rather, finding someone else who has already found your market for you.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/ianchilders</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-07-12</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 517: Being a Pottery Educator with Ian Childers - In an internet world where there are seemingly endless “educators” available to learn from, what actually qualifies someone to teach a skill? Is it a traditional piece of paper, or diploma, saying that some institution has decided you can? Is it the number of years you’ve been doing the thing? Frankly, there’s really not a fixed formula we can say where x+ y = qualified educator! However, during this chat with Ian Childers, a potter who, as often happens, fell into education by necessity and yet has found a passion for it, I’ve found a few thru lines and a couple of Ian’s philosophies I wholeheartedly agree with - namely, the fact that he’s not only teaching his students a skill set to hypothetically go make a living at this craft, he is also showing his students what it takes to make a living at this craft. As Ian says during our chat, how can he expect his students to trust him if he’s not out there doing it himself? And that I couldn’t agree more with.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/the-cara-app</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-07-05</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 516: The Cara App - The App for Artists? - There’s a new social media app in the virtual neighborhood. Will it solve all the frustrations we artists have? Maybe. Maybe not… In this week’s solo episode, I dive into all things social media marketing, why a new app probably won’t solve your problems (but it could!), and why maybe it’s a good thing that it’s hard to get attention on the internet. Plus how everything is changing and yet, nothing is changing. Always. I swear it makes sense once you give a listen.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/dave-conrey</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-07-05</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/2d094b2c-02af-485c-85d0-3db992dc328d/IMG_3345.jpeg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 515:  Stepping Outside Our Comfort Zone with Dave Conrey - A rare non-potter conversation today on the podcast with Dave Conrey, graphic designer turned email newsletter educator. We talk about the realities of making art and trying to sell that art, approaches to marketing our work without needing to be a part of the hustle-bro culture, and eventually get around to the notion that really piqued my interest when I first met Dave online - committing to one project and one project only for a set period of time in order to focus. It’s a rare conversation without mention of kiln gods or reclaim, but enlightening to see the cross over of similarities when it comes to making a living from the things you make in whatever medium that might be.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/joy-hanford-parttwo</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-06-14</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/334a6315-adf4-4cef-a8dc-330eee505584/image0+%281%29.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 514: Defining Your Own Success with Joy Hanford - We’re back for part two! In this continued conversation with Joy Hanford - a Midwest gal, much like myself, who now lives in Portugal - we get into the topics of the complexities of learning about and navigating bureaucracies in other countries, art as a form of grieving and processing world events like the lockdown and the experience of a global pandemic in another country, starting a business amidst covid, and most of all, defining success for ourselves. Yes, it’s a heavy one my friends. But once again, it’s interwoven with a healthy dose of dry humor and sarcasm because apparently, that’s a Midwestern trait we both have - making jokes amidst heavy subjects to help get you through. Once again, there’s a bit of adult language, so hit pause and grab the headphones if you need to before your hands are covered in mud.</image:title>
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    <lastmod>2024-06-14</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 513: Moving Abroad as a Ceramicist with Joy Hanford - Living abroad. Sometimes, it sounds like the solution to all of my problems. All I need to do is choose a country with national healthcare and town with relatively low cost of living, and TA DA! Making a living from the things we make is solved, right? Right? It can look incredibly romantic online - strolling through tiny streets seemingly too small for cars, surrounded by historic architecture and the depths of tradition for a craft we all love. But how does it actually work? Is it really that simple? Much like anything in life and business, there are pluses and there are minuses. And it’s up to each of us individually to put those things on a scale and decide what’s best for ourselves, individually. However, the decision gets a lot easier when you have more information on the metaphorical scale, which is exactly what this week’s conversation with Joy Hanford - an American born ceramicist who’s been living in Portugal for the last 20 years - is all about.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/steve-tubbs</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-09-05</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/167c9f49-2418-48e6-94d4-8453e0d95cd3/Steve+and+Arlo+Square.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 512:  Working with Retailers with Steve Tubbs - Wholesale… The assumption is there’s no way to reasonably make a living, as a maker, by doing wholesale. But is that true? Since I’m generally pretty skeptical of any sweeping statement that says an entire concept doesn’t work for anyone, at all, I jumped at the opportunity chat with Steve Tubbs, an ex-retailer turned potter, when he mentioned his entire business is wholesale. While it might not work for everyone, it’s definitely working for him and the nothing-short-of-brilliant ordering schedule he has that allows him to plan out his entire year’s work by spring time!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/lindsay-langsdale</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 511: Starting a Community Studio with Lindsay Langsdale - You’ve taken a few classes at your local community studio and you know you want to make ceramics a larger part of your life. In fact, you want to build your own studio, but what does that even look like? And what might be all the tasks and overhead that community studio has been handling without you even realizing it? What is it actually like to start and run a community studio? While we’re at it, let’s complicate things a bit and open that community studio in one of the most expensive places to live in the country. Lindsay Langsdale is doing just that, in San Francisco, and we’re talking all about it on this episode of The Maker’s Playbook.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/live-at-nceca-building-relationships-with-collectors-with-louise-rosenfield-peter-beseacker</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-10</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 510: Live at NCECA - Building Relationships with Collectors with Louise Rosenfield &amp;amp; Peter Beseacker - Having a collector buy our work... It sounds… amazing! Awe-inspiring? Relieving? Luxurious. All of the above really. But how does it even happen? During the 2024 NCECA conference, Coalescence, held in Richmond, VA I sat down with Peter Beasecker and Louise Rosenfield to chat about their perspectives as maker and collector on how building relationships with collectors begins and how we might each be able to consider fostering our own.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/etsy-vs-your-own-website-the-launch</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-08</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 509: Etsy vs. Your Own Website {The Launch} - “Etsy vs. Your own website. Which is better?” It’s a question I see asked online endlessly. I see the responses fought over just as endlessly. But is it really an either/or? We dig into that on this next installment of our “The Launch” series - where I dig into the firsthand experiences Francesco &amp; I are having in starting our own ceramics business. Spoiler - We’re using both Etsy and our own website, because there are pros and cons to both. And it’s those pros &amp; cons we discuss in this episode so you can make the decision that’s right for you.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/alliemason</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-04-19</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 508: Instagram Real Talk with Allie Mason - I know I'm not the only one who finds social media to be exhausting. The idea of keeping up with trends sounds equivalent to nails on a chalkboard to me. But at the same time, I know there is a huge opportunity on social media. After all, Instagram alone has 2 billion users. Enter Allie Mason. A data-based marketing strategist who understands that us solo-preneurs and small independent businesses don’t necessarily have the time (or the desire) to be spending all of our time keeping up with the ever changing world of social media. What Allie teaches focuses on using social media for what it can do for us all to grow our businesses, but not having it be our businesses.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/connie-cole</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-04-12</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 507: The Assault on Creativity with Connie Cole - On this week’s episode I talk with founding Community member, Connie Cole, about her winding path to becoming a full-time potter. We discuss her battle with imposter syndrome, what finding a “gateway drug” has done for her business and the assault on creativity she’s experienced over time (and of course, how she’s battling against it!)</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/yuliya-makliuk-environmentally-friendly-pottery-bf43w</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-04-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 506: Business FOMO (and NCECA) - FOMO (or the fear of missing out) seems to surround us. But it’s especially pervasive online - as we watch other people live their lives (or at least the versions they show us), and do things that perhaps we wish we could do or dream about doing. Like attending a conference perhaps? This week were talking about the realities of attending or NOT attending NCECA as well as the larger issues in our lives and businesses that FOMO causes. Feeling the FOMO because you aren't going to NCECA? Come hang out inside of The Community - Learn more &amp; join for even just 1 month by clicking here. One of my favorite books mentioned in this episode: Deep Work by Cal Newport (purchasing the book through this link helps support the podcast)</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/yuliya-makliuk-environmentally-friendly-pottery</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 505 : Creating Environmentally Friendly Pottery with Yuliya Makliuk of Here &amp;amp; Now Pottery - Do you get overwhelmed at the idea of making your studio practice environmentally friendly? It can seem impossible to figure out where to start and what actually makes an impact. The science of climate change is complicated at best, and more often than not confusing. Which is exactly why I’m so grateful for people like Yuliya Makliuk - a trained ecologist and potter. Yuliya recently wrote the book Potters Save the World: Learn to Make Sustainable Ceramics and Help Protect the Earth, and on this week’s episode we talk all about the process of self-publishing this important book as well as creating her own pottery amidst an ever changing reality of living in Ukraine.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/hope-limyansky-smith-part2</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 504 : Setting Boundaries &amp;amp; Vetting Educators Online with Hope Limyansky-Smith - The internet can be amazing for connecting us all to resources we wouldn’t otherwise have access to. But it can also be absolutely overwhelming. With so many people teaching online, how can we tell who actually knows what they are doing? How do we know (especially if we decide to pay) that they are actually qualified to teach us? I’m not talking about formal qualifications and diplomas here - obviously, there are plenty of problems with the traditional structures of arts education. But at the same time, there’s additionally the sneaky problem of online education not having any sort of barrier to access - literally anyone can call themselves a teacher on the internet. During Part Two of my conversation with Hope Limyansky-Smith, we dig into the pros &amp; cons of being online educators and the ways in which we ourselves vet other educators we want to learn from as students ourselves. Before all of that, we also have a very important discussion on setting boundaries online both for ourselves and with each other so that we can continue to enjoy building new friendships online, which really is what makes being on social media great, isn’t it?</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/hope-limyansky-smith</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 503 : Instagram - The Good, The Bad &amp;amp; The Weird with Hope Limyansky-Smith - How often do you look at what other makers are sharing on social media and think to yourself - “How do they have time to make all this CONTENT? Daily reels, stories, thoughtfully designed themes, not to mention the actual pots!” It’s easy to feel overwhelmed. This week on the podcast, we’re going behind-the-scenes with Hope Limyansky-Smith of Limyansky Studios who consistently posts 5 days a week while also teaching full-time to understand what it’s really like to create so much for social media.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/victoria-brook</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 502 : Waiting until the Time is Right with Victoria Brook - What were you doing 15 years ago? Were you already making? Had you not even found clay yet? It’s amazing the twists and turns our lives can take, and yet, without them, we wouldn’t be doing what we’re doing today. On today’s episode, I sit down with Victoria Brook, who first introduced me to wheel throwing 15 years ago, when I lived in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England for a year. A lifetime has happened since, and yet at the same time, in many ways Victoria and I both are coming full circle.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/rebecca-harvey-archie-bray</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 501 : Things that Want to  Happen with Rebecca Harvey of the Archie Bray - We’re kicking off Season 5 with a big announcement right at the start of my chat with Rebecca Harvey, the executive director of the Archie Bray. Rebecca and I also chat about the history of the Bray and her vision for the future, along with the pros &amp; cons of traditional academic education and partnering (or not!) with galleries.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/starts-stops-the-launch-series</loc>
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    <lastmod>2025-12-04</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 423: Starts &amp;amp; Stops {The Launch Series} - A year end recap of our first full year focusing more intentionally on launching our ceramics business, Carra Terra. If you are looking for support in trying to figure out how to make a living from the things you make, come take a look at our online home for makers from all over the world by visiting makersplaybook.com/community</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/gerald-brown-debunking-hustle</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 422 : Debunking the Hustle with Gerald Brown - Have your friends ever marveled at how much you manage to get done? How you somehow work full-time and then also produce artwork on the side that you sell on the nights and weekends in your side-hustle? How often are we praised for seemingly “doing it all?” In our productivity focused culture, these accolades can feel amazing. But is it healthy? I am most definitely not the only one out there who’s been rewarded for their ability to manage numerous things at once. Gerald Brown knows this life well, and on today’s episode, she and I are debunking our often lauded ability to do #AllTheThings, and peeling back the curtain a bit on why. If you’ve ever chatted with Gerald, or listened to her own podcast (called Unraveling. Look it up!) it will come as no surprise that we also get into the big philosophical questions around how we make a living from the things we make a bit more than my usual pragmatic.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/jono-pandolfi-defining-goals</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 421 : Defining Your Goals with Jono Pandolfi - Goals… Are they something that’s fixed? Or something that’s flexible? I used to think of goals as rather fixed. You choose your goal, then put your head down and work towards that one, singular, (often random?) goal. Right? Hmmmm… Goals do give us guidelines. Without goals, we are constantly chasing the next shiniest thing. Before we ever got any traction on the last, now slightly less shiny thing. This week, as I chatted with Jono Pandolfi who produces ceramic dinnerware for some of the world’s top chefs, I was reminded that goals, while giving us a hypothetical finish line to work towards, are anything but fixed.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/makeda-smith-sio-ceramics</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 420 : Starting with Relationships with Makeda Smith of Sio Ceramics - A lot of business advice talks about needing to find your ideal customer. That hypothetical person that you need to understand inside and out - from what stores they shop at to what value system they use to view the world. And while this is important, what most of that business advice does not tell you is that it is nearly impossible to figure out who your ideal customer is without first actually putting yourself out there and trying to sell your work. But of course, there’s a huge gap between initially trying to sell your work and learning who your ideal people are. Most of us wish we could skip through the awkward pre-teen-like business years of uncomfortable situations and conversations with non-ideal customers. I get it. I’ve been there. And while there’s no way to truly avoid those growing pains, a great way to be able to protect your own energy through the process is to know with absolute certainty that what you are doing is taking care of people. Not recommending the most expensive item in your booth because you want to make the big sale, but instead, recommending the item you genuinely think will solve the problem the person has described to you. While I could tell you all about how to define an ideal customer, at the end of the day, what I was reminded of during my chat with Makeda Smith is that all of this making a living from the things we make craziness starts with building relationships. Not only between fellow makers to help us through the unknown (as I talk about so frequently), but also in building relationships with the people we are meeting that may - or may not - buy our work.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/finding-momentum-launch-series</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-06-07</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 419 : Finding Your Momentum {The Launch} - As much as I talk about analytics, strategic decisions, data, systems and all the very pragmatic things about building a small business… Honestly, a lot of this whole making a living from the things you make thing is still ultimately, emotional decisions. But how can those pesky emotions help guide us in our decisions rather than derail us? We can't possibly trust every fleeting feeling we have, can we? If you are interested in diving deeper on the questions addressed in this episode - questions that require nuance and trust - you might want to check out The Community and see if it just might be the safe oasis you've been looking for. Learn more at: makersplaybook.com/community</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/maya-rumsey-changing-audiences</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 418 : The Ability to Change Audiences with Maya Rumsey - In this chat, you are going to hear my unfiltered shock at how little I actually know about Maya’s personal life - proof that you do not have to overshare on the internet in order to use social media for strategic business growth, how Maya has pivoted her audience over the years through drastically different styles of making, and (equally exciting for me), how she changes her business model throughout the year based on what her personal life needs - Hallelujah!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/cara-steinbuchel-cara-mae-skincare-potters-butter</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 417: What is the REAL Job? with Cara Steinbuchel of Cara Mae Skincare - When you dream about going full-time with your craft, what is the real job? Is it really going to be your hands in clay all day, every day? Getting to hit that coveted “flow state” in the studio because you finally have no other interruptions and can simply focus? I mean, that sounds like a dream, but more often than not, the big surprise for any of us starting a small business can be that the bulk of our time isn’t actually spent on the thing we think it will be spent on. Cara Steinbuchel of Cara Mae Skincare (and the beloved Potters Skin lotion) brought up this exact subject on our chat this week and we peeled back the curtain about on her “real” job while also laughing about it all along the way.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/naomi-clement-storytelling</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 416: The Importance of Storytelling with Naomi Clement - I think it’s a safe assumption to make that most of us enjoy sharing a story about how we made a piece we are particularly proud of. Or heck! We enjoy sharing a funny fail story about a flop on the wheel (once enough time has passed that we can laugh about it, of course). Now what if I told you that storytelling is actually all you need to do in order to sell your ceramics. My chat today with Naomi Clement is going to shed some light on how all sales really is, at least when done well and perhaps more naturally than your local used car guy - is simply storytelling. Which actually isn’t so bad.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/kristina-batiste-juniper</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/f4f94b80-372f-433f-881a-c60203825deb/20200925_130945+%281%29.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 415: How Clay can Hold Ideas with Kristina Batiste - Sometimes, making art can feel less important as we scroll through the news and battle with all that’s happening in the world. How can the things we make battle racism? How can a pot positively influence the needs of climate change? It sounds a little silly. Until we realize that culture is what changes the world. And art is uniquely linked to affecting culture and thus, change. Today’s guest, Kristina Batiste, creates minimalist ceramics that hold these huge subjects within their beauty and reminds me that the things we make can bring about the change we dream of.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/launch-series-unfair-business-advantages</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-06-07</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 414: Unfair Advantages {The Launch} - The Launch series is a peek behind the scenes on launching our own ceramics business, Carra Terra. Sharing in as real-time as possible, the decisions we’re making and why, the lessons we’ve already learned, how we are sticking to a plan or pivoting based on new information and endless more details because starting a business is a wild ride!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/dault-pottery-part-two</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 413: Part Two with The Dault's - There are few things in life I find more encouraging than finding colleagues who understand your life. With all do respect to our supportive loved ones, there’s just something different about the depth of conversation you can have with another person who understands how heartbreaking it can be when you bump that perfectly trimmed bowl you’ve been working on for days off the shelf or how thrilling it can be to sell your first pot. Only the people doing these same things really feel the same depth of those feelings with us. And if it wasn’t obvious from Part One of my chat with Lisa &amp; David of Dault Pottery, when I get a chance to connect with others who are building their life in ways similar to my own, I’ll chat for hours. So we’re back for Part Two, which really only ended because the kiddos made us!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/dault-pottery-eliminating-hurry</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 412: Ruthlessly Eliminating Hurry with The Daults - When I hear people talk about boundaries and cutting back on work hours and all of that beautiful sounding work/life balance stuff, I assume the person preaching this has already reached a certain point of success. I think to myself, “Well, of course you can cut back on your work hours now. You already have -insert whatever- going for you, so it's safe to slow down." But what if the very reason for launching your small business in the first place was in service of building an un-hurried lifestyle? I've said many, many times that we must choose our lives first and build our businesses around them, second, but I didn't figure that out until I messed up the order with my first business. On this episode of the Maker's Playbook, Lisa &amp; David Dault share how they are ruthlessly eliminating hurry from their freshly full-time pottery business right from the very beginning.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/yvonne-rausch</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 411: In-Person Markets as Customer Research with Yvonne Rausch - A lot of the time, we think about the benefits of in-person markets solely related to the sales we do on the specific day(s) of the market. But what if you thought a little bit more strategically? This week’s guest shares how she’s approaching selling at markets as a means of direct market research for who her ideal customer just might be… or not be.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/launch-series-farmers-markets-art-fairs</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-08-24</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 410: Farmers Markets vs. Art Fairs {The Launch} - In this 3rd installment of "The Launch" series, I'm comparing the dynamics between small markets and multi-day art fairs, shedding light on the energy and small bit of acting skills needed for face-to-face sales. As made clear by so many past interviews here on the podcast, there is a huge value to the direct conversations we can have at markets for understanding our potential customers' interests, but the thing that might come as a massive surprise to everyone is in this episode, I'm challenging the concept of the "ideal customer" and what that really means for building a small business.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/tzipporah-schvarcz</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-03</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 409: Battling Scarcity with Tzipporah Schvarcz - Most of the time, when I talk with other makers about taking the leap to go full-time, we talk about the logistical things - having a bit of savings put away in case of emergency, understanding your numbers to make sure the pricing can support your necessities, getting an email list going in order to have ownership over your audience, etc. etc. etc. And while these things are indeed important, the unsung workhorse of being able to make a living from the things you make - the thing that often is the difference between keeping a business afloat or not, the thing that carries most of us through the uncertainty isn’t a spreadsheet or new planning journal. It’s our mindset. Battling the ups and downs of all that’s happening in our heads, particularly when it comes to feelings of scarcity - that - spoiler alert - social media is essentially built to enhance - is actually what Tzipporah and I wind up talking about amidst sharing the realities of her life as a mom of 4 with a self-employed husband as well!</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 408: The 4-Day Work Week with Julie Cloutier - A 4 day work week… it’s the thing of dreams. And, according to many many studies I’ve read about in many books, actually highly linked to better productivity and all sorts of other very business-savvy things that only a fool would say no to. But in all of those books I’ve read, the examples have been from companies that had teams. So it was very easy to tell myself excuse after excuse of why it could clearly work for a team, but not work so well for us solo-preneurs, or itty bitty businesses trying to do the work of 10 people while only being one person . That is, until I saw a post by Julie Cloutier on Instagram, where she was celebrating her one year anniversary of a 4 day work week...</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 407: Reflecting on Our First Market {The Launch} - Episode 2 of the special The Launch series! This week I reflect on our first in-person market experience - just 6 short days after it happened. So yes, I'm still tired. :) We also have some insightful questions from our Community members as our framework for this review on the highs and lows of our first market.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 406: Introducing {The Launch} - A real-time series on starting our ceramics business - Have you ever wanted to be a fly on the wall while someone else starts a ceramics business? From the very beginning? Well, you’re in luck! In this new series - The Launch - I’m sharing (in as real-time as I can) the reality of what it’s like for Francesco and I to start our pottery business, Carra Terra. First up, what the last 2 years of twists and turns, starts and pauses, has been like and how that’s brought us to this summer of going all in on in-person markets. Spoiler: This episode airs one week before our very first in-person market. I’m guessing you’ll be able to hear the nerves through your headphones. If you are going through all of this yourself and want to dig deeper on these conversations, come join me and over 60 other makers from all over the world inside of The Community. You can learn more about what this amazing space on the internet is by visiting makersplaybook.com/community. Becoming a member not only welcomes you into an amazing group of makers and colleagues celebrating the great successes with each other as well as supporting each other on the not so great days, your membership also helps with the creation of this very podcast.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/micah-schedler-potter-commissions</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 405: The Efficiency of Commissions with Micah Schedler - Commissions… I feel like it’s a four letter word when I talk to some potters. You see them physically tense up and take a deep breath ready to do battle with a fire breathing dragon. And I’ve always been a little bit confused by this because I kind of like them. Just add it to the list of the ways that it makes me a bit of a black sheep in the art world. You can slot it right next to my love of systems and routine and willingness to talk about marketing and sales. But I digress… When I sat down with Micah Schedler I thought we’d mostly chat about how he’s balancing working as a health professional in nursing as well as having 2 little kids and launching a brand new website - I didn’t know we’d share a joy of the efficiency of commissions and that’s actually where he hopes to focus most of his business. But hang with us here. If you are already rolling your eyes, thinking “No way, Rebecca. I tried it once and it was a mess. I’ll never do a commission again.” Before you click the next button, just give us maybe 10 minutes to see if Micah’s controlled approach to how he makes commissions work best for him - amidst the sleep deprivation of toddlers and working another job - might help you re-think this often annoying request…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/larissa-warren-rat-bag-studios</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 404: Using Your Background knowledge with Larissa Warren of Rat Bag Studios - Do you feel like the time you spent in a previous career (or a current one) is just pulling you away from moving forward in clay? But have you ever considered that the “background knowledge” you have gained from other life experiences is actually part of creating your unique voice and style as an artist? In this week’s episode, Larissa Warren of Rat Bag Studios and I discuss how her previous career as a teacher directly influences her current work, how the connections and background knowledge she gained while in that career directly support her recent jump into being a full-time studio potter and how the literal background knowledge of the medium you are working in is crucial to actually making the work. While so many of us scour the internet for quick and easy answers to what another artist uses for clay or glaze, what material do they make those stencils out of and how do you (insert whatever unique style skill here)... Larissa points out that maybe the key to figuring out all of those questions is actually found within the trial &amp; error that comes with gaining the background knowledge of the process in the first place.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 403: Being a Part of a Lineage with Gloria Han - My chat this week with Gloria Han opens up so many bit and important conversations (spoiler: this means, there’s going to be a part two!). From getting into education because of a passion for teaching (rather than it being the automatic route after graduate school as it is for so many), to balancing contemporary work with traditional making practices, and encouraging new artists to consider the wisdom of generations of knowledge before defaulting to the overused excuse of there being “no wrong way to make something.” Gloria’s teaching practice and her making practice are intrinsically linked - one informing the other and also each allowing the space for the other passion to be nurtured without the push of capitalism to make work that’s easy to sell.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/business-clay-nceca-part-two</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 402: The Business of Clay (Part Two!) - When I sat down with Paul Blais of the Potter's Cast and a packed room of fellow makers at NCECA, we hit upon a lot of business subjects. Frankly, just one of the questions he threw my way could have been its own entire episode. So today I’m expanding on a few of those subjects in this solo episode. If there are still questions you had from that chat, send me over an email at podcast@makers-playbook.com and I’ll queue up another follow up episode as well! Because if there was one way to sum it alllllll up, it’s that just about every decision when it comes to your own business - whether a side-hustle on the nights and weekends or a full-time gig - nearly every decision you are going to have to make is interconnected to every other decision.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/danny-meisinger-making-living-clay</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 401: Making a Living with Danny Meisinger - When I say “making a living” what do you think I mean? Do you immediately think of income and how much money you make? Or do you think of how you spend your time? Do you think of the balance between working hours and leisure hours? I don’t think there is one particularly correct answer, but on this episode of The Maker’s Playbook, our guest, Danny Meisinger does put this phrase into some very helpful perspective for those of us trying to figure out the financial side alongside the dream life of being a full-time potter in the 21st century. If you are dreaming that same dream, or even just curious about what it’s actually like to make a living from what you make, this episode is for you.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 335: Live at NCECA - The Business of Clay with The Potter's Cast - LIVE from NCECA! Our recording of the joint (but mostly Paul interviewing me) episode with the Potter’s Cast is here! We touched the surface on a lot of business topics in this one hour. Anything from the importance of finding your own work before market research, how business is mostly just the scientific process on repeat, and a lot lot more, including direct questions from the live audience that was sitting in front of us the whole time. The room was absolutely packed and frankly, I was a bit stunned. Any one of the questions Paul asked me could be their entire own episode by themselves, so if there is a subject you were wishing we had time to dive deeper on, send me and email and let me know!</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 334: Creating out of Chaos with Kim Ferguson of Khaos Creates - How often do you remember the name of someone’s Instagram account before you actually learn their real name? It’s a little weird. But it can also be freeing for some people, because it means you can choose how much of yourself you want to share. You can create an alter-ego of sorts. Not a dishonest representation of yourself - I’m not suggesting we start “catfishing” - but instead, the ability to create a comfort zone for what you share publicly and what you choose to keep private. Not to mention, how building a brand name can help you create space between the public and the private. This, of course, also means what we all experience as users online is not always the full story of what is happening in real life for any maker we might follow, which is the big question I’ve had for Kim Ferguson of Khaos Creates for a long time. Between seeing snippets of a wholesale jewelry line and hearing about her acceptance into a local residency -I had no idea, until we chatted that she was balancing all of that while still working a full-time job! Understanding what life actually looks like is exactly why I started this very podcast, so, of course, I’m excited for you to hear Kim’s story this week where we shed a bit of light on the difference between the instagrammable Khaos Creates and the lovely human that is Kim.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 333: Part Two with Sarah Hussaini of Not Work Related - If there was a store that was only open for 10 minutes out of the year, would you go to it? Do you think it would even stay in business? What would the business model even look like for such a store? This sounds crazy to describe doesn’t it... Every business advisor out there would tell you that a store needs to be available to people when the people are ready to purchase. Random last minute birthday gifts, mother’s day, of course the lead up to the crazy end of year shopping season. Especially in the US, we are used to stores being available nearly any time we want. And we aren’t even talking about online shopping yet… But here’s the spoiler: I’m not talking hypothetically. Because, when you do the math, 10 minutes, is about how long there is work available to purchase from Not Work Related’s website over the course of 1 year. Sarah’s incredible design heavy work sells out in less than 2 minutes. And the time intensive nature of her designs mean she and the Not Work Related’s team only do 5 stock drops on her website per year. 5 times 2 equals 10. 10 minutes. If this intro hasn’t hooked you in just yet to sticking with us for part two of my conversation with Sarah Hussaini of Not Work Related, let me just say this: The point of sharing this, and so many other stories here on the Maker’s Playbook podcast is to show you - There is no single right or wrong way to make this crazy dream work. Yes, that means you might have to try and possibly fail at some options before you figure out what works for you. But I hope, most of all, that it means as you listen to Sarah’s story, you will be encouraged to find the solution that works for your life circumstances specifically. HEADS UP: There is adult language in this episode, so please be aware before deciding to listen without headphones in public spaces or around little ones.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 332: Building a Viable Business in NYC with Sarah Hussaini of Not Work Related - Building a business as an independent maker can be hard. And when you add on top of that the financial realities of doing it in an urban center… well, it takes a special level of drive, determination, work ethic and grit to make that happen. All of which, I can safely say Sarah Hussaini undoubtedly has. Sarah (owner of Not Work Related) and I connect on a lot business topics. So many, that I couldn’t contain all of the nuggets of hard earned knowledge in one episode. That’s right my friends, settle in because this is only part ONE of my chat with Sarah. Next week, we’ll be coming back for part 2. A heads up: This episode does contain a bit of adult language.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/katherine-mahoney</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 331: Changing with the Times with Katherine Mahoney - One of the most surprising things for many makers pursuing self-employment is that the brainstorming, troubleshooting, and all-around scientific method of experimenting, testing, observing, and pivoting never really ends (unfortunately or fortunately, depending on the day). The strategy you had for selling your pots 10 years ago might not work today, and it can feel like you are back at the drawing board, practically starting from scratch all over again. What you decide today, well in 3 years or maybe even 1 year, you might have to change again… But before you feel too hopeless, know that it is possible to grow and shift with the times. Because Katherine Mahoney has been doing just that, across 3 different countries, for the past 40 years.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sarah-chenoweth-davis</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 330: Working with Galleries with Sarah Chenoweth Davis - What if there was a way to grow your audience or broaden your reach without hustling on social media? What if you could focus on fostering a handful of really close relationships with people who understood and appreciated your work, and then in turn, spent their own time working to promote that work and get it out to a curated audience of people interested in possibly purchasing that work? Does it sound too good to be true? Well, this week on the podcast, we talk about a possible business model that can do just these things. But it also gets talked down upon a lot in the industry because of what you might have to give up in order to enjoy it…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/virgil-ortiz-trusting-process</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 329: Trusting the Process with Virgil Ortiz - My chat this week with Virgil Ortiz is packed with insights. From pragmatic business advice, like protecting your intellectual property, to the less tangible topics of manifestation and trusting that things have a way of working out. The history of clay for the Cochiti people and how Virgil’s work, truly almost accidentally and yet oh so beautifully connects generations of storytellers is nothing less than astonishing.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 328: Intentional Practice with Yair Abraham - “There’s only so much people can show you until you actually go and do it and fail and practice and practice until you get it….” This week on the podcast, I virtually sit down with Yairs Abraham who started his self-taught pottery journey in Buenos Aires, then moved to New Zealand, and now is potting away in his home studio in what spare time a baby and full-time job allows. But here’s the catch… he prefers it that way. And if his fantastically designed website is any indication, he’s definitely found the right solution for himself!</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 327: “Blooming late,” Academia, &amp;amp; Imposter Syndrome with Page Kelly - This week, my conversation with Page Kelly of Zephyr Valley Ceramics twists and turns, much like her career paths. A self-proclaimed “late bloomer,” there is this stunning moment in this conversation at about the 46-ish minute marker when Page discusses the narrative body of work she is currently producing, where I hear literally every experience she has had in the last 2 decades - inside and outside of working in clay - come together. It’s an encouraging moment, especially for those of us that feel like we are getting started in this beautiful journey a bit… well, later than others. Note: There is a tiny bit of adult language in the latter half of this episode, so if you are listening around kiddos are in a community setting, you might want to choose to pop on some headphones.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/rebecca-graves-prowse</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 326: The Business of Pottery with Rebecca Graves-Prowse - For all of you out there who have been listening to the podcast and thinking, “It’s too late for me to make a career move… I’m too far into this corporate job with the 401ks and the healthcare and all the stuff…” Well, this episode, my friends, is for you. Rebecca of GravesCo sheds light on the decades of experience she had before she “magically”created an “overnight success.” We also nerd out a bit on the way spreadsheets allow us to make creative decisions and I for one, am not so subtly vying for a spot as a new biz-bestie with the powerhouse woman. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to go from a solo maker to the leader of a team, you aren’t going to want to miss this episode.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/alex-olson</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 325: Finding New Routines with Alex Olson - Ceramics is not exactly an easily mobile art form. And depending on what you are making, it can take up a fair bit of space. So what the heck do you do when you move to New York City, but you know you are only going to be there for 2-4 years? And yet, you are fresh in the beginning stages of getting your business off the ground? Well, that’s exactly what Alex Olson is working on figuring out and this week we’re talking all about it, along with the reality of trying to build new healthy routines - both physically to ensure the longevity of working in clay, and mentally, when leaving in as busy of a place as NYC - that keep us inspired for the long game of making a living from the things we make.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/elisabeth-young</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 324: Building Ceramicon with Elisabeth Young - In order to have kept my small business afloat for the last 12+ years, I had to learn a LOT of other skills that have absolutely nothing to do with crafting a photo. In fact, as you’ve heard from many past guests here on the podcast, once you go full-time with your craft, more often than not, you aren’t spending 100% of your time IN that craft. Instead, there’s admin and website updates and taxes and paperwork and customer service and…. Well, the list goes on, but I think you get the idea. To make a living from the things we make, there are a lot of skills required. But where the heck can you learn some of these skills? Well, for me, it was through in-person conferences. But thanks to the demands a global pandemic put on the world, all of those in-person conferences have realized they can provide these important resources to a heck of a lot more makers throughout the world if they hold a virtual conference. And starting in 2023, a brand new virtual summit is arriving. This week on the podcast, I’m chatting with the creator of Ceramicon. Elisabeth Young’s dream for Ceramicon is to offer an accessible way for people to learn multiple pottery techniques and business strategies from the artists they love and I’ll be joining the 17 other makers and small business owners, sharing some of our hard earned lessons in the pursuit of making a living from the things we make.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 323: Living, Learning and Making Abroad with Ido Ferber - How often do you find yourself listening to another maker or hearing about another artist’s story to get to where they are now and saying, “Well that worked for them but I…” But I’m not in my 20s. But I’m married. But I have a dog, but I… It can be really easy for any of us (myself included) to come up with all the reasons we can not do something. Until, you hear about someone who, even with all of those things, is doing the thing. This week on the podcast I’m chatting with Ido Ferber who has picked up and moved to Tokyo in order to studio ceramics. No, not directly from undergrad. And no, not even by himself. Ido and his wife, who is a maker in who own right, have both moved abroad to figure out how to make a living from the things they make.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 322: Are You Spamming Your Email List? with Rebecca Ickes Carra - The irony of publishing this episode on Black Friday isn't lost on me. But here's the thing: Your emails are NOT the same as the big box stores. At least, not if you are actually (regularly) engaging with the people who have trusted you enough to give you their email address... The true irony is that oftentimes, thanks to our nerves around feeling like we might be spamming people, we wind up only emailing them when we have a shop update or an announcement about a market or show. But what feels more spammy? Only hearing from someone when they want you to buy something or consistently learning more about an artistic process and the artist behind the pieces on a regular basis, that then culminates in the opportunity to purchase that work? On this week's solo episode, I'm dispelling some of the common myths about email marketing and how popping into your subscribers inbox is not the same as the big box stores sending endless emails to all of us this weekend.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/horacio-casillas</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 321: Pursuing Creativity Slowly with Horacio Casillas - Dream with me for a minute - What if instead of stressing out over figuring out everything, you simply take the next step? This week on the podcast, I’m interviewing Horacio Casillas, who is currently a resident at Companion Gallery. And he’s spending this unique time as a resident artist doing just that - taking the time to slow down and think. He doesn’t have the next 5 years of life already plotted out and ticking off the to-do list towards whatever crazy goal that demands to push harder and wake up earlier and grind. Instead (despite giving himself set work hours), he’s allowing himself to reflect and make at a pace that leaves space for new ideas. And as soon as you see his unique style of work, no doubt, you might be a bit more convinced (like me) that there’s something to be said for a bit of slowness in our lives…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/angelik-vizcarrondo-laboy</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 320: Making Connections with Angelik Vizcarrondo-Laboy - You’ve just walked into a new gallery exhibition, and immediately you start thinking about the artist who created these amazing works in front of you. You dream of working in the arts and what that would be like. But have you ever thought about all the other ways you could also work in the arts? To put on that one exhibit there is also a gallery, and thus, a gallery owner (not to mention gallery employees), there’s potentially a marketing company that helps the gallery spread the word on new features, there might be writers and art critics that write reviews, and there may have even been a curator pulling all of these various pieces and people together. So, when we really get to thinking about it, there are a lot of ways to make a living working in the arts. And, as you are about to hear from this week’s guest, perhaps, if your goal has been to make an impact - to raise awareness around important social issues - well… maybe making the art isn’t always the fastest or biggest or most direct way to make that impact…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/andrew-linderman</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 319: Figuring Out What Works for You with Andrew Linderman - Should I sell online? Or should I sell at in-person markets? Should I accept wholesale? Should I teach? These are just a handful of the myriad of questions we makers often ask ourselves when trying to figure out how the heck to get our small businesses off the ground. But it’s hard to know what the right choice is for yourself until you try many of these things. And when I say try, I don’t necessarily mean just throwing up a table at one in-person market, where it rains on one day of the weekend, or maybe the hosts of the market don’t do as much marketing beforehand and the turn out was bad, so now you’ve decided that in-person markets are crap and you’re never do one again… No, often times we have to try all of these different routes to supporting our craft a couple of times, or maybe, if you’re like today’s podcast guest… 22 times. That’s right, twenty two.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/values-based-pricing</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 318: Values-Based Pricing with Me! - Pricing your art… It’s part math, part alchemy, and a whole lot of emotion. It should just be simple math, but somehow it's never that simple. On today's solo episode I dig into the differences between cost-based pricing and value-based pricing (and why the second one is so important specifically for artists). Of course, as is true with most things in life - The topic is a bit more complex than we would probably prefer. If you are looking for more support and help in navigating the complex questions we all have to answer in order to even try to make a living from the things we make, come check out the conversations happening inside of The Community - where makers from all over the world, newbies and makers a few decades into their career, are problem-solving together in order to figure out how the heck to take this shared dream of all of ours - to make a living from the things we make - from dream to reality. Learn more at: https://www.makersplaybook.com/community/</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/cory-brown</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 317: How having a Full-time Job allows Cory Brown to be an Artist - Most of us dream about quitting our full-time jobs in order to do what we love. In fact, that might just be why you are listening to this very podcast. But what if, instead of thinking of your full-time job as the thing holding you back from being creative, you approached it from the perspective of the thing that allows you to be creative. Maybe not necessarily while doing that job (although this week’s guest one could argue gets to do that too), but thanks to the reliability of that job - you get to make whatever you want to make. Whatever you are most curious about. Without worrying about whether or not you can sell it…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/juliette-davin</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 316: Starting Before it’s Perfect with Juliette Davin - How many of us feel like we need to have every single detail figured out before we start something? I know I sure do. If this is your first podcast episode, you will soon figure out, I am awfully (obsessively) Type A for being a creative. And while at times that has served me really well in systematizing processes and being organized in order to use my time efficiently, at other times… it’s slowed me down. Analyzing every pro &amp; con to every website platform out there for months and months before just simply starting the darn thing! Sound familiar? It can be scary to start, so I think (at least it’s true for me) we give ourselves a false feeling of security by analyzing things until their final breath, thinking we can solve every possible problem that might come up before we even start. When, in reality, you just have to start in order to figure it all out. At least, that was the case for this week’s podcast guest, Juliette Davin. Juliette is one of the founding members of our online membership, The Community - where makers from all over the world are joining together to have meaningful conversations around many of the questions that plague us all - Etsy vs. your own website, how to start an email list, managing Instagram without loosing your sanity, how to price your work, and so much more!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/ricky-blanding</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 315: Slow Growth with Ricky Blanding - Today on the podcast, I’m discussing one of my favorite, most insightful, yet most difficult to stick to topics… growing slowly. If I could do it all over again, and go back 12 years in time, the one thing I would do differently would be to actually hold onto the work outside of starting my own business longer. I was in such a rush to feel the false legitimacy of being “full-time” that I missed out on the benefits (and support) that was possible when you weren’t only relying on your craft to pay the bills. This week’s podcast guest has strategic patience about growing his ceramics studio which is deeply refreshing.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/ben-carter</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 314: When Plans Change with Ben Carter - There are two very exciting things happening on the podcast this week! #1 - I’m excited to announce that for the first time since starting this podcast, we have a bit more support to help me get new episodes out into your headphones! For the next couple of months, the one and only Amaco is sponsoring the Maker’s Photography Styling System! And I couldn’t be more grateful &amp; excited. #2 - This week’s interview with Ben Carter is actually Part 2! Part 1 can be found over on Ben’s show, Tales of a Red Clay Rambler. But you can really listen to them in whatever order you want, so don’t stress :)</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/rebecca-ickes-carra</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 313: The Myth of Growth with Rebecca Ickes Carra - Why do you want to have 10,000 followers on Instagram? What will that do for you? Or rather… what do you think that will do? Today’s world is full of encouragement to grow - have more followers, make more content, do more, diversify income streams - do more and grow, grow, GROW! But have you ever stopped to ask yourself, “Why?” On this week’s episode, host Rebecca Ickes Carra sheds a bit of light on the Myth of Growth and how it might not solve the problems we think it will (it could in fact create more problems. Or at least create a deep feeling of burnout…). Encouraging us all to think critically, she also discusses the ways we can approach growth strategically in order to build the lives of our dreams.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/tom-kemp</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 312 : On Reflective Learning with Tom Kemp - On today’s episode, Tom Kemp manages to hold space for both a deeply philosophical conversation while at the same time providing pragmatic advice for all of us working to figure out how the heck to make a living from the things we make. I personally, have never connected much with the philosophy and the “what is art?” conversations that often spring up, but when married side-by-side with the realistic, and the pragmatic - the benefits of things like social media for artists to test out ideas in the marketplace alongside the difficult slog that is practicing a craft and teaching your body how to physically do something new in order to express that “what is art” idea? Now that is a conversation I could have had last twice as long as this interview. You’ve heard us talk a lot about Instagram here on the podcast in the last few weeks and it seems on continuous best-practice, how to succeed &amp; grow on social media that every maker - whether side-hustler or full-timer - has said is rooted in consistency. Consistently showing up. But I know a lot of times consistency is hard if you don’t have a way to create photos and videos that you are actually proud of.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/becca-otis</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 311 : Choosing NOT to Grow with Becca Otis - Is the thing you are dreaming of doing actually going to provide you with the life you are dreaming of having? On today’s episode, I sit down with Becca Otis (yes, from Wheeltalk Podcast!) to dispel some of the myths behind a lot of goals we self-employed artists often set. Dream of owning your own studio &amp; hosting classes, she’s done it. Dream of selling your work to make a living, she’s done it. Want big-name brands to contract you for elusive wholesale work? That’s how Becca actually started her business! And now… she’s intentionally working in someone else’s pottery business instead.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 310 : How a Big Goal Determines Everyday Decisions with Sam Lopez - Have you ever felt overwhelmed by all the things you think you are supposed to be doing as a maker in 2022? Post a reel every day to Instagram! Don’t use Etsy, build your own website! Raise your prices!! The world can often feel like it’s constantly yelling at us to change something, fix something, do something more, and more and more… And if you are anything like me, that ever-growing to-do list is impossible. There isn’t enough time in the day or resources available to accomplish all the world yells at me to do. So what if you had a guiding light on how to decide what things on that ever-growing list, you actually really and truly needed to focus on? What if raising your prices wasn’t actually the solution, but lowering them was? It sounds crazy, right? But thanks to Sam Lopez’s vision for not only how he wants his work to be used in everyday life, but also what he wants his life to look like in the future as an independent maker and educator, he’s been able to make some decisions that, on the surface, could appear completely nonsensical if you are only listening to what the internet is shouting at you.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/jackie-wright</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 309 : Organic Growth on Instagram in 2022 with Jackie Wright - Do you think it’s too late to organically grow a large Instagram following? Did you only just start your Instagram and it feels like you’ve missed the opportunity? Maybe you tell yourself “there’s no possible way to grow on Instagram these days compared to before…” Or assume the advice someone gave you - maybe someone who already has a much bigger following - won’t work for you because they grew their following years ago - before reels, before there were so many potters online, etc. etc. etc… Well, my friends, it’s time to break down all of those excuses. Because today’s guest has grown her Instagram from a few hundred to over 32 thousand (at the time I’m writing this) in about a year and a half. That’s right. Jackie Wright started intentionally using Instagram for her ceramics at the start of 2021. No paid ads, no clever tricks or outsourced marketing assistance. Oh, and she’s not a full-time potter either. She’s side-hustling. So if she can do it… well, I think you and I can do it too, can’t we? In this episode, Jackie kindly references our Maker’s Photography Styling System - a 6-week photography course designed specifically for ceramicists and makers. If you need support in learning how to take better photos of your work, then you aren’t going to want to miss out when the doors open again on September 8th! We only do this twice a year and the Maker's Photography Styling System is made specifically to help you build your own, quick &amp; easy, repeatable system (just like Jackie now has) to take better photos of your work faster.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/kate-schroeder</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 308 : Following your own inspiration with Kate Schroeder - What if you stopped making the kind of work you don’t actually like to make and decided to only make the random thing that really interests you? And what if… what if doing that actually brought you more sales and more people interested in your work and excited about the same thing you are excited about than you could have ever imagined? That very thing is happening for Kate Schroeder and her Shelfies and on this episode, we get to hear all about the long road that led her to today's successes.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 307 : Repetitive Practice as the Key to Success with Rich Brown - For most everyone I’ve spoken with in the last year and a half of the podcast, one thing has been true - As soon as they touched clay, they were hooked. It was like a siren call, an addiction, where their whole life they began to rearrange in order to figure out how to carve out more time to have their hands in the mud. That mesmerizing experience that is true for so many of us, often has us jump straight from our first class at the local community studio to “how do I sell this so that I can quit my job?” in the span of just a few months. But what does it actually take to quit your job and go full-time in pottery? What SKILLS do you need in order to actually be able to make a living from the things you make? Are there certain goals you need to hit to make this thing viable? Today’s guest sheds a bit of light on his experience with these very questions.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/john-britt-ceramics</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 306 : Falling into a Life of Ceramics with John Britt - When you see a super well know potter's name somewhere - on the cover of a book, on a list of speakers at a conference, or anywhere else - do you ever wonder how they got there? Did they always know they wanted to do this? Or was their path a bit more windy (perhaps like yours and mine)? Have they reached this particular level of success because of a clearly laid out plan, or was it really most luck and timing? Well my friends, one of those names that pop up in my head as more of a name on a book rather than the person themselves is John Britt and on today's episode, you just might be surprised how he came to have his name on the cover of that book that’s probably on your shelf right now… If you are looking for a community of similar makers inside of a supportive environment to have realistic, candid conversations around what it’s really like to make a living from the things you make, The Community might just be the online home for you. Come learn more and see if it’s right for you at makersplaybook.com/community. Bonus perk: By joining, you’ll be helping support the creation of this very podcast.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/virtual-home-for-makers-rebecca-ickes-carra</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 305 : A Virtual Home for Makers with Rebecca Ickes Carra - 12 years ago, I had no idea what I was doing. I didn’t go to business school. And I definitely had never dreamed of starting my own business. But, I managed to keep putting one foot in front of the other and climb up the hill that is self-employment, learning when to adjust course or totally change plans when necessary thanks to the support of an incredible Community of peers. On today’s solo episode, I’m sharing why I’ve spent the last 4 months building a virtual home for makers - The Community by the Maker’s Playbook - and a few of the things that make this online space particularly special to me. I know without a doubt that I would not have the business I have today without the support of a community of colleagues. The depth of this support is what I dream about bringing to the maker community. Not only tactical how-to’s from the makers that have come before you, but side-by-side emotional support when the going gets tough. Because if there’s one other thing I know it’s this: Making a living from the things you make is a marathon, not a sprint. And while it might always be hard, it’s a heck of a lot more enjoyable with friends by your side. Find out more about The Community by the Maker’s Playbook by clicking here: www.makersplaybook.com/community</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 304 : Building a Communal Space with Kenny Sing of Turn Studio - Kenny Sing of Turn Studio &amp; I chat this week about how his Instagram originally started out simply as a place to share the processes he was testing out, without the intention of reaching 83,000++ followers. We also dig into his passion for teaching and why he's building his community studio space (plus how building a studio actually works and all the hard cost realities of doing that). Kenny's heart for building a community clearly hits home for me. If you don't have a local resource for in-person community building like Kenny's space, or if you are craving connecting with other makers year round rather than a few days at a workshop, I'd be honored to see you join us over at The Community. We already have makers from all over the world chatting together, and we'll be kicking things off with a full month of digging into how we can use Instagram in a sustainable, healthy way next week.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 303 : Making Space for Our Personal Lives as a Full-time Maker with Lucy Fagella - On this week’s episode, I virtually sit down with Lucy Fagella to discuss how she’s shifted her business over the course of the last 20+ years as a full-time studio potter. We chat about the realities of parenting and being a full-time maker as well as how to make sure you are taking care of your body amidst the physical demands of ceramics. Lucy has navigated the big shift from predominantly cash-based in-person market sales to credit card processing and online shops (and as may come as a shock to some, would rather spend a day packing up boxes &amp; shipping labels than loading a car and driving to a show). Lucy has discovered a way in which to provide a stable income removed from the stress of the shop-update cycle on one half of her business while keeping things flexible and creatively interesting on the other side.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 302 : Committing to a Goal and Sticking to it with Delvin Goode - Have you ever talked yourself out of going after a goal because the logistics just felt impossible? Like pursuing a master’s degree when you can’t attend a school in person? Or setting up a home studio space when you work in a job that forces you to move locations every couple of years? Pretty difficult right? But not impossible. Or at least, you can’t use that excuse any more, because today’s guest on the podcast, Del of D Goode Art has managed to work with all of those logistical limitations while also creating some incredibly iconic work.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 301 : A Lifelong Pursuit of Learning with Adam Field - We are back! Season 3 of the Maker’s Playbook podcast kicks off with Adam Field! In this episode, Adam and I dig into how he managed to say yes to a multi-year residency program at the Archie Bray with 2 kiddos in tow, how he integrates social media into his studio practice, and the vulnerability it takes to change the style of our work when also making a living from that work. This is a conversation I know I personally will be returning to frequently.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 217 : The Social Responsibility of Businesses (and different business models to pursue) - It’s taken me longer than expected to finish writing this episode. But I suppose that should come as no surprise given the constant influx of world news being thrown at us. At times like this, just like in 2020 and so many other moments of social awakening in the last few years, our work as artists can feel disconnected with the immediate needs of the world. On this week’s solo episode, I’m peeling back the curtain on how I process that for myself. Alongside my originally planned episode of discussing a few of the various business models you can choose in order to create a business that serves your life and not the other way around.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 216 : Building and Growing Our Communities with Phi Le of Illuminated Clay - Do you think of the word “business” as a dirty word? Does the idea of starting a business seem like the last thing that might bring about the change we so desperately need in the world? Could a business possibly do as much good for our communities as a non-profit organization? Well, this week’s podcast guest is building a business on their terms. And it’s one creating quite an impact. Phi Le has built their community pottery studio, Illuminated Clay, specifically focused on not only providing a safe space for people often not included in traditional structures but also a space that can provide resources to historically marginalized groups regardless of their ability to pay. And Phi is only just getting started…</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 215 : On Burnout and the Search for Balance Nicole Dacey - Burnout - If it wasn’t a word in your vocabulary before 2020, it probably is now. It’s a topic talked about a lot in the land of the self-employed and generally, the tactics for avoiding it are always given by someone who’s just recently, slowly, crawling out of it. But don’t worry - Nicole Dacey and I aren’t going to give you any of those tactics you’ve heard a million times. No, instead, we settled in for a simple, candid, straightforward conversation about the twists and turns your career can take and the many ways burnout can show up even when you are doing things you love.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 214 : Having a Non-Negotiable with Mike Tavares - What if you set up your life around one non-negotiable? How would that inform the decisions you make every day? How would that change your day-to-day schedule - where you live, what you choose to do for work (if it’s outside of the non-negotiable), how you commute… all of it. Maybe it’s a radical idea, but when I heard today’s podcast guest, Mike Tavares, describe this decision it was a big lightbulb moment.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 213 : Taking Big Risks with Leila of Tierra Madera Ceramics - What’s the through-line for everyone thinking about going full-time with their art? Or even for those who are already full-time and self-employed? No matter what, aside from a slightly obsessive passion for our craft the big elephant in the room for us all is Risk. And today’s podcast guest stared risk in the face and said yes anyway. She said yes to moving cross country and yes to taking on the overhead of a storefront studio in the hopes of propelling her business farther forward than she ever has before. Listen in to hear how Leila Srouji of Tierra Madera is managing all of these big changes as a full-time, self-employed maker.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 212 : Growing as an Artist through Community Support with the Village Potters - Our first ever panel is on the podcast this week! I’m chatting with not one, but two of the founding members of the Village Potters Clay Center in Asheville, North Carolina - a brilliant community studio that clearly has cracked the code on not only helping potters and artists push themselves creatively but also in creating sustainable partnerships and viable businesses.So basically, they are all living the dream…</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 211 : The Importance of a Consistent Photography Style - Today, my photography tips come directly from a recent email conversation I was having with another maker about how things “should” look on Instagram. As in, do all of your photos have to have the same colors so the feed looks cohesive? Do you need to have a pattern to your posts? At the heart of all of these questions about the look of photos and the flow of a feed on Instagram to me was one thing: Your Style. Because the specifics of whether or not you have a pattern or whether or not it’s all one color, are less important than making sure everything feels cohesive together.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 210 : Creating an Efficient Photography System - Photography can be overwhelming if you don’t have an efficient system for it. But it is possible to have an efficient system for it! And if you don’t believe on that - because you’ve been totally exhausted and frustrated by the google search results so far... Well, I’ve asked a few past students to share their experiences on the podcast.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 209 : Being a Business Owner with Curt Hammerly - Have you ever thought, "If I only had a larger Instagram following then..." But have you thought about what it would really take to do that? How many hours it would take to create the content to grow that audience? There's no one that knows that reality much better than the one and only Curt Hammerly of Hammerly Ceramics.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 208 : The Perks of Disparate Life Experiences with Kisha Reed of Peaks Candles - Our final new interview episode before a little holiday and end-of-year break is an insightful one. So often all of us can feel like we're behind... As if we could be so much farther along with our making practices or small business had we only known 10 years ago that this is what we were going to want to do. But what if all those disparate life experiences are actually creating the precise set of skills you might need in the future to in fact launch your business? In big and small ways, that's precisely what's been true for Kisha Reed of Peaks Candles. On this episode, she and I chat about the unintended benefits of having worked and studied on a variety of topics, as well as the perks of quietly launching a business.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 207 : Crafting a Life that Works for You with Bryan Hopkins - I've heard it said more than once by makers of many kinds: Being a self-employed artist isn't a job you turn off. It's more a way of life. There are certain choices we can make that can make life more stressful or more in tune with the kind of business (and making practice!) we want to have. This approach to building a life came up once again in my conversation this week with Bryan Hopkins. Have makers you'd love to hear on the podcast? DM me @themakersplaybook on Instagram with any of your suggestions! I'd love to have them. If you don’t want to miss out on a single episode, then be sure to go to makers-playbook.com/newsletter to sign up for our email list and be alerted when new episodes are released. Or you can just DM me your email address while you send over those suggestions for who I should interview next.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 206 : Why Your Sales Results have Nothing to do with the Value of Your Work - It's the holiday season and makers around the world are hustling to get their listings online and take advantage of increased sales during this time of year. But what if your sales aren't going as planned? What if you haven't sold as much as you'd hoped? What if you haven't sold ANYTHING? What does it all mean? On this solo episode of the podcast, I'm talking about 2 words that get a bad reputation in the arts - sales &amp; marketing. If taking photos for all of those online listings is exhausting to you, be sure to download our free Photography Cheat Sheet for a quick to implement 3-step process for taking better photos faster, even if you're just using your cell phone. Download it here: https://www.makersplaybook.com/photography/. And if all of the business decisions I dig into on this episode start to feel overwhelming, then download the Quick Guide to Smart Decisions here to help ease the burden. As always, I'm only a DM away on Instagram @themakersplaybook if you have any questions!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/matt-katz</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 205 : Succeeding by Specializing with Matt Katz - Is there a singular aspect of your craft that you love above every other step of the process? For the ceramicists that are listening, there are SO many steps to our process! Making clay, building or throwing, trimming, glazing, firing... And there's seemingly endless options within any given one of those steps. How are we supposed to become proficient in all of these things?! Well, today's guest on the podcast would argue - Maybe you aren't supposed to try and master every single step?</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 204: Building a Commissions-Based Business with David T Kim - When I first started this podcast I wanted to make sure that we had a diverse breadth of stories. In fact, it was paramount to the focus of what this podcast would be. I was looking out onto the internet for how other ceramicists and makers made a living from the things they make, and all I really saw was one example - people hustling on Instagram to grow an audience, push that audience to Etsy or an online store, do a massive shop update, then lose their minds with packaging and shipping for a couple of days, and do it all over again. There had to be other options out there, and thus… The Maker’s Playbook podcast was born... And on this week's episode, I'm excited to be filling a gap we've had in our interviews! This week I chat with David T Kim, an independent, full-time ceramicist, living and working in Chicago, focused predominately on creating custom work for some of the greatest restaurants the city has to offer.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 203: Life after the Great PotteryThrown Down with Rosa Wiland Holmes - Have you ever thought to yourself, "well, if I had that many followers, than I could sell more and quit my full-time job. Getting more followers is the solution to all my small business dreams!" Or perhaps, you've been watching a bit of TV and thought, “Well, if I was on the Great Pottery Throw Down, I could quickly increase my audience size, sell loads of pots, quit my full-time job and all of life's problems would be solved!" So, the question is: Is that the key to success? A big break like that? Well, today's podcast guest has some firsthand experience (and perhaps, some surprising insights). Rosa not only got to be on the Great Pottery Throw Down in Season 3, but she won the whole darn thing! And while there's been great interest in the work that she made during the show, that doesn't necessarily mean she wants to spend all of her time making Alice in Wonderland tea sets…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/greta-michelle</loc>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/c1388bec-a4ca-4d24-b69b-6bd84f6341c3/image+%2822%29.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 202: On Crafting a Business to Suit Your Life with Greta Michelle - So often I hear makers talk about what they “should” be doing. How they “should” start posting on Instagram or “should” sell at markets, or “should” sell online. But how many of us have stopped to consider what we prefer? What suits us the best? What is the route in business that is most natural to our personalities and our personal lives? Greta Michelle is crafting a business that not only suits her life, but also beautifully uplifts other local businesses from her home of Trinidad &amp; Tobago. Listen in to this episode to get your own brainstorming started on how you might be able to partner with some of your favorite local small businesses to help support each other!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sunshine-cobb</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 201: How to Sustain going Full-time with Sunshine Cobb - Season 2 is here! We are kicking things off with the one and only Sunshine Cobb. Sunshine and I dig right into it from the beginning. From sharing, oversharing, and the importance of boundaries as makers and educators, to diversifying income streams, to deciding what you are willing to give up to make these crazy full-time artist lives of ours work. We talk about moving cross country, the importance of mental health, self-care and how to sustain your art practice for the long run. This intro barely grazes the surface. There is A LOT in this episode!</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 127: How I “Do It All” - Having it all…. Doing it all… it’s the elusive dream. And while I don't think I'm actually doing it all, running 2 photography studios, starting a podcast, and launching an online course all while moving and starting one of the busiest wedding seasons in the history of events, is a lot to manage. In this week's episode I'm sharing the hard-earned tools &amp; tricks I've learned over the last 11 years in business to manage my time running multiple businesses and somehow still get enough sleep at night (not to mention be a decent wife and available friend).</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 126: On the Importance of Experimenting with Tamara Bryan - This week I’m chatting with Tamara Bryan, who you might know on Instagram as Tamara B Pottery. Tamara studied pottery in college and has been working out of her home studio on and off for the past 20 years. I say on and off because as the primary care giver for her kiddos, while it may look to some that Tamara had the freedoms of a full-time potter, living the dream, the reality for her felt a lot more like the crazed side-hustle grind. It’s been a constant trial and error not only in finding her distinct style that she gets asked about regularly, online, but also in discovering what business model works for her life - having tested out shows, built a large wholesale client list, and now, focusing predominately on her own online sales.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 125: Mental Health &amp;amp; Finding Your Community with Katie Meili - This week, I’m sharing an incredibly candid conversation I had with Katie Meili, who is a resident potter at The Village Potters in Asheville, North Carolina. We chat about the difficulties of mental health and how it feels when life takes unexpected turns that throw you off a path everyone else around you is on…. The silver linings that brought us to clay, and the importance of having a community that supports and pushes us as artists. Oh, not to mention, how an entire ruined kiln - I’m talking ENTIRE kiln load of completely ruined pots - brought Katie to her distinct style we know and love today.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sherrod-faulks-of-deep-black-designs</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 124: On Trusting Yourself with Sherród Faulks of Deep Black Designs - I thought about cutting this episode into 2 parts, but I just didn’t know where to pause this conversation, so settle on in because Sherród and I just don’t stop. We’re two impassioned Scorpios who didn’t realize we were going to find such a fast connection so needless to say, we got a little carried away. And as two fire signs, we also get fired up, so there is a bit of cursing in this episode. If you have little ones, I suggest saving this episode for later or enjoying the wonders of headphones.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 123: The Importance of a Vision with Alex Matisse of Eastfork Pottery - How do you go from a farm with a woodfire kiln and two potters to an industrial warehouse that already feels too small? Vision. And a bit of luck. At least, that's what worked for Alex Matisse, founder and chief strategic officer of the one and only Eastfork Pottery. On this episode, Alex shares insights into the pros and cons of growing such a large, successful business and how taking the time to get clear on a vision is the lynchpin of it all.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/angela-venarchik</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 122: Building a Brand Experience with Angela Venarchik - This week I'm catching up with one of my first ever potter friends, Angela Venarchik. As I was properly learning ceramics for the first time, Angela was preparing to quit her day job and go full-time with her pottery business. She taught me tricks to be more efficient with my throwing, and I shared business knowledge I'd learned over the last decade of entrepreneurship. And now... She's built a brand that not only provides customers with a consistent experience across all online platforms but also, connects her work to larger world issues that are meaningful in her own life and the lives of her customers.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/week-4-photography-extravaganza</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 121: The 4th and Final Week of the Photography Extravaganza - When I first started learning photography, what made it so overwhelming was the number of variables. So my friends, I’d like to present you with an alternative, on this 4th and final week of the Photography Extravaganza. I want you to learn how to systematize your photography approach. Because once you do that, I promise you will slice in half the amount of time it takes you to photograph your work. This week on the podcast I touch on what systematizing your photography can look like, but I also dive deeper on an even bigger subject - How to vet educators online. Now, I realize, I'm clearly biased. After all, I'm an online educator. But over the last 11 years of entrepreneurship, I've also (more often than not) been the person buying from online educators. Some have been amazing. And some… well… Less than amazing. I know firsthand that learning from people who have been doing this longer than the rest of us is one of the fastest ways to accelerate your growth as a business owner. But I also want to help make sure that you don't make the same mistakes I made when it came to deciding which of those educators to listen to.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/week-3-photography-extravaganza</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 120: Week 3 of the Photography Extravaganza - Have you ever thought about WHY you're taking the photos you're taking of your pots? Do you pull out your camera and just start shooting because you feel obligated? Or do you start photographing knowing what the photos you're taking are specifically going to be used for? This week, week 3 (out of 4!) of the Photography Extravaganza, I'm talking about the 3 primary purposes of photography for makers and how each requires a very different approach to photography.</image:title>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 119: Week 2 of the Photography Extravaganza - “What camera should I buy to have better photos?” It's a question I get asked more times than I can count. And if it's not that question then it's a close version of it: - “Can I take good photos without a real camera? Only with my cell phone?” - "But I don't have a swanky kitchen with marble countertops to make my photos look like that..." All of these questions boil down to one: "Can I take good photos without..."and then insert whatever it is you feel like you don't have. Here’s the spoiler and Cliff Notes of this entire episode: Yes. yes, you can take good photos without a fancy new camera, without a swanky kitchen or sunlit studio. Yes, you can take good photos without spending hundreds of dollars on props. Tune into this episode to find out the solutions to all of these common questions.</image:title>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 118: Week 1 of the Photography Extravaganza - The other week I asked all of you to tell me what you struggle with the most with photography over on our Instagram stories. One brave person said - “I”m not sure I even know what a good photo is.” So before we dive into this month-long extravaganza of all things photography and specifically photographing your work, here on the podcast, I thought it best to start at the beginning.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/ryan-durbin</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/38dc6601-b6b7-4031-a5e3-159605ae854f/image+%2827%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 117: Playing the Long Game with Ryan Durbin - It's a bonus episode! Normally this is our "off" week for publishing the podcast, but I have something very exciting in-store... I'm preparing a month-long series of upcoming episodes specifically about photographing your work. In order to do that, we'll be taking the next 2 weeks off, so I cued up this very special bonus episode with the one and only Ryan Durbin of RD Ceramics to tide you over in the meantime.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sophia-mcevoy</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/01991195-c785-4fd2-a9c2-f8f0ada39edc/image+%2828%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 116: Real life vs. Instagram with Sophia McEvoy - Do you ever think about what happened BEFORE the Instagram photos? Or BEFORE your favorite potter hit 25 thousand followers? Off and on, many people will talk about the real-life vs. Instagram life, and there are plenty of hilarious memes floating around the internet about them, but I’d wager a bet that while many of us (myself included) are scrolling through IG, we are never actively reminding ourselves of what that maker’s life looked like before that photo… The years of saving money, the months of trial and error, the delays because of things outside our control, and the sacrifices made because we want this crazy dream - to make a living from the things we make - so freaking badly… Well, that’s exactly what Sophia McEvoy and I sat down to talk about.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/how-to-go-full-time</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 115: How to go full-time - Have you been dreaming of taking your ceramics work full-time? That’s probably a stupid question, isn’t it? Don’t we all dream of that? I’ve discussed with a number of our past podcast guests about what it took for them to go full-time. Some of their stories were planned transitions and some just kind of happened... But, there’s been a common thread between everyone in all of these various situations: It’s a big scary leap. However, there are some tangible, tactical, finite, specific things we can discuss and measure when it comes to asking ourselves the dream question: “Should I go full-time?” And that’s exactly what I want to talk about today.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/dwight-white</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 114: Dwight White - I have a great conversation in store for you today with our 2nd episode ever featuring a non-potter! Like so many of us, Dwight’s journey into being an art-reprenuer (his word, not mine. Although I think it’s a genius word), is a windy one. He’s embraced some serious life changes over the years and yet continues to lean into the uncertainty of being an art-reprenuer with confidence I envy.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/rachel-russell-of-upper-call</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 113: Year One as a Full-time maker with Rachel Russell of Upper Call - Ever wonder what it might be like in your very first year of full-time ceramics work? Take a peek behind the curtain of that very moment in time with Rachel Russell of Upper Call this week on the podcast.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/soula-pefkaros-of-golden-ratio-clayworks</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/005aee1e-2a15-4d15-ae34-53219cad3d12/image+%2831%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 112: Balancing business and rest as a solo-maker and full-timer with Soula Pefkaros of Golden Ratio Clayworks - At its core, I started this podcast to help the maker’s community with so many of the business struggles I’ve had to learn and overcome over the last 11 years of entrepreneurship. But frankly, my chat today with Soula Pefkaros of Golden Ratio Clayworks feels like exactly what I needed to hear for myself. We talk about managing customers expectations as a one-woman shop and solo maker, the struggle to find the right rhythm for a business that not only needs to provide for your livelihood but also support a healthy life for ourselves personally, and how long it’s taken both of us to start truly practicing the importance of genuine rest in our lives. But that’s just in the first half! We also touch upon a subject near and dear to my heart - social enterprises. And how, by building strong, thriving businesses, what a powerful force for change our small businesses could actually be in their communities. Plus, a lot, lot more… **A quick heads up for this episode **Soula and I are both grown ups with no kiddos around us at the time of this recording. And we dig into topics that we are clearly both passionate about, so our vocabulary choices sort of reflect that passion. In other words, there’s a bit of cursing in this episode, with a few very well placed f-bombs for emphasis. If you’re in a community space or don’t want little ones to hear, then I’d suggest you hit pause and grab your favorite set of headphones.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/tom-corneill-of-young-martyrs</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 111: Changing Our Goals with Tom Corneill of Young Martyrs - This week, Tom and I talk about the struggles of mental health, particularly in being self-employed or trying to create and put things out into the world, we talk about identity and how maybe the goals we don’t achieve are just signs that they were the wrong goals. We share how we’re both coming back to being true to ourselves, and we battle the worse case scenario “what ifs” that plague anyone’s brain before the start a new venture. And eventually, we do finally talk about the band he started and produced an album with all amidst the UK's on-again/off-again lockdowns over the last 12 months.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/diana-adams-of-sample-haus</loc>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 110: Taking the Leap to Full-time with Diana Adams of Sample Haus - Diana &amp; I dig into the limitations she’s coming up against in trying to balance a full-time job and Sample Haus - which - spoiler alert - Between the time we recorded this conversation and now, Diana has actually put in her notice! She’s going full time! So if you’ve been wondering about that yourself, this episode is definitely for you (and you know I’m already planning to have Diana back this time next year to see how it’s all going).</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/kate-mcelwee</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/e34782f7-d3e6-42e2-9a4a-98f40518ac34/image+%2835%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 109: Finding Creativity in Other Mediums as a Full-Time Artist with Kate McElwee - I'm catching up with my friend and fellow wedding photographer (who has a pottery side hustle too!) Kate McElwee. We share how COVID made us unemployed for the first time in our lives, how pottery and other mediums bring us the creative exploration that we can’t really take in weddings, and… perhaps of most interest to many… we dish a few secrets on how, as photographers, we absolutely simplify how we photograph our ceramic work so it doesn’t take too much time!</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/simon-levin</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/20748387-ce37-437d-8aba-9406b1e25998/image+%2836%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 108: Craft vs. Art with Simon Levin - This week I’m chatting with woodfire potter, Simon Levin. A self-proclaimed “evangelist of clay” who continually finds ways to bring educational resources outside of the traditional structure to the clay community. After over 30 years working as a full-time studio potter, there were almost endless subjects we touch upon in this conversation that could be entire podcast episodes onto themselves - How to make what you want first, and market second, the difference between craft and art, and so much more.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/thoughts-on-making-smart-decisions</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/1c503577-2e43-4a7c-88b2-f1c198d5eda6/Episode+127+-+How+I+%E2%80%9CDo+It+All%E2%80%9D.jpg</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 107: Thoughts on Making Smart Decisions - This week is a little different than most of our episodes. As I've been listening back through some of the amazing interviews we've already had in this first month of the podcast, I'm noticing some common themes and I wanted to take a minute to pull some of those together. It’s my goal that these occasional solo episodes will help connect the dots on many of the common themes and through lines in the conversations we'll continue to have with podcast guests. On this first solo episode, I’m talking about the recurring need we all have to make decisions in our businesses (spoiler alert: 10 years later, that need never goes away!). Most importantly, I’m suggesting a framework that will allow you to make smarter decisions by asking more informed questions…</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/sandy-lockwood</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/342ba3f8-6376-4499-941b-3d5f9843d47b/image+%2837%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 106: 40 years in Clay with Sandy Lockwood - This week I chat with a wonderful past instructor of mine, Sandy Lockwood. Sandy has been making and teaching ceramics for the last 40 years. As a teacher, she has the unique skill of being able to help guide her students in finding their own unique style and approach to the craft. And as a maker, her ability to capture movement in stationary pieces, while also showcasing the wonders of wood and soda firing is incredible.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/emilie-bouvet-boisclair-twinette-poterie</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 105: Growing Your Pottery Business with Emilie Bouvet-Boisclair - Ever wondered whether or not you should set up an Etsy shop vs. your own website? This week, Emilie (Twinette Poterie) and I dig into that very subject plus the pros and cons of working out of a shared community studio vs. her own home space. Not to mention her transition from being a formally trained painter into finding her unique style with the ability to bring that painterly quality onto pots.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/stephen-phillips</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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      <image:loc>https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/652ddaa9af36995e7f3a4045/933af7c5-82df-47fd-81f1-ba12fb174e3c/image+%2839%29.png</image:loc>
      <image:title>Podcast - Ep 104: Balancing the Side-Hustle with Stephen Phillips - This week we’re talking to Stephen Phillips. A unicorn in the pottery world (at least to my experience) because Stephen has been crafting forms out of mud since he was a little kid. He actually studied ceramics at the university level! What a crazy concept, right? This week, we talk about that constantly nagging itch in the back of our heads to take the leap and make ceramics a full-time career rather than a side-hustle, how Stephen planned out initially starting his studio after his plan for the “safe route” didn’t work, and how he would use that same approach in preparation to go full-time.</image:title>
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    <loc>https://www.makersplaybook.com/podcast/kara-leigh-ford</loc>
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    <lastmod>2024-05-17</lastmod>
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